# Style VS. Design

**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927
**Category:** random
**Created:** [May 28, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927 "2003-05-28T03:01:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![comicGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@comicGeek](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/comicGeek)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/1 "2003-05-28T03:01:43Z")

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Calling all designers and those who are planning to become one:

Read the article on [Adobe.com](http://Adobe.com) Style VS. Design.

A must read! Though it really hurts 😛

[Style VS. Design](http://www.adobe.com/web/features/zeldman20000821/main.html)

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/2 "2003-05-28T07:51:42Z")

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It is a hurtful truth.

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/3 "2003-05-28T07:56:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sintax321 \*  
> \*\*It is a hurtful truth. \*\*

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/4 "2003-05-28T07:59:19Z")

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It REALLY HURTS!

Now that we know about what “normal” people think. What can we do about it? :beam:

I know! _SULK_

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/5 "2003-05-28T08:14:09Z")

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That ariticle is true, usability is extremely important, but also keep in mind that not all designers are like that. Some will design differently for themself and when designing for a client.

When you’re designing for a client, there are standards you’ll tend to follow that will ensure that the site will serve its purpose and easy to navigate.

When designing for yourself, it’s like contemporary art where anything goes.

A lot of my client work, to me, look extremely boring compared to what I’m use to but it’s what the clients want and importantly, it meets their needs. As long as they pay me, I don’t care how boring it looks.

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/6 "2003-05-28T08:36:01Z")

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take a peek at www.pnuc-inside.dk

that’s ajob I did for my school, boring yes, but usable…

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/7 "2003-05-28T08:57:20Z")

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That’s not so bad eilsoe, actually looks decent. =)

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/8 "2003-05-28T09:16:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by electrongeek \*  
> \*\*As long as they pay me, I don’t care how boring it looks. \*\*

Hahaha. That’s right! I’m continouslly experimenting in combining usability and style. I don’t want to take sides. I want to benefit from both worlds. I know this is possible. The main problem is acheiving the balance between style and design. The problem with most people (normal) is that they close their minds to new techniques and ideas.

:sigh:

I’m :block:ed

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/9 "2003-05-28T09:40:12Z")

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> “This is boring, so here are some stripes and here’s a drop-down menu, so you’ll know I’m better than this stupid assignment.”  
> I think this guy’s on to me… :sure:

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:03am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/10 "2003-05-28T10:03:13Z")

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hahaha. He’s on to all of us! 😛

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/11 "2003-05-28T10:11:06Z")

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have you ever looked at that idiot “usability expert”'s own webpage? It’s hella ugly… I mean… EWW!!!

what’s his name again…?

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/12 "2003-05-28T10:12:57Z")

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Jakob Neilsen…

And it’s [useit.org](http://useit.org) or something. He subjected his own site to his rating system and it scored like, 70%. 😏

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/13 "2003-05-28T10:14:22Z")

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He’s probably danish… or swedish… jerkoff…

=)

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/14 "2003-05-28T10:15:03Z")

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I think he’s just got a problem with his head…

He’s got it stuck up his arse. :sure:

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:23am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/15 "2003-05-28T10:23:13Z")

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hahah Kit could be pretty vicious. 😛

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/16 "2003-05-28T10:25:10Z")

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Moi? :evil:

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/17 "2003-05-28T10:30:11Z")

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Evil missy 😛

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/18 "2003-05-28T10:31:35Z")

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Well I feel I had a valid point… 🙂

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/19 "2003-05-28T10:32:48Z")

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I think you have 2 points Kit, you forgot to count your left horn. 😛

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#### Post date: [May 28, 2003, 10:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/style-vs-design/21927/20 "2003-05-28T10:34:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kitiara \*  
> \*\*Jakob Neilsen…

And it’s [useit.org](http://useit.org) or something. He subjected his own site to his rating system and it scored like, 70%. 😏 \*\*

Poor guy!

He’s completely unhappy! 😛

:whistle:

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