# SVG SMIL probably here to stay

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [February 22, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271 "2021-02-22T15:47:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![steve.mills](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/steve.mills/32/14961_2.png) [@steve.mills](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/steve.mills)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/22 "2021-03-02T08:30:14Z")

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> [@prg9](#):
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> ![smil-seems-like-the-answer](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/2X/2/200a37ad5d433d1e161a48106bb983f820e6ea97.png)
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> Given that you’re still seeking a plugin. I guess you didn’t learn to write SMIL over the course of the last year even though its so important to you.

> [@prg9](#):
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> All the best regarding your SMIL or nothing quest and good luck with all those icons you rave about. Since “_SMIL is the answer_”,

I don’t need a plugin and I don’t exclusively use SMIL either (its not all or nothing), like I said from the start.

Thanks for avoiding my posts.

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/23 "2021-03-02T08:55:40Z")

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> [@steve.mills](#):
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> I don’t need a plugin

Oh ok …

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> I use inkscape for all my **icons** and backgrounds and **it would be really handy if there was a SMIL plugin.**

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> I think I’ll be using it mostly for morphing **icons**

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> I make super fast pages, minimal code and utilize SVG heaps ( **mostly** inline **icons**

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> If SMIL got traction and SMIL **plugins** for vector software became readily available

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> vector software (if we get some SMIL **plugins** )

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> This is what an artist can do with vector software and a SMIL **plugin**.

The one thing you keep referencing is icons, thats what you’ve stated you do the most of. Those generally don’t have vast complexity regarding structure so whats hindering you from adding SMIL manually to animate them? You’ve declared browser support is finally here and SMIL is beyond wonderful and that you don’t require a plugin for SVG & SMIL.

So just get on with it “mate” and be a “champ” about it.

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/24 "2021-03-18T18:10:46Z")

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Not to reengage all of this, but today I inadvertently noticed your JS suggestion.

> <https://github.com/w3c/svgwg/issues/829>
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> SVG is the best 2d vector format we currently have however, .svg upload/ display… is not supported by several environments due to the potential for malicious code.
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> Unsupported environments include:
> \-Some email platforms (including Gmail),
> \- Facebook feed/ profile pictures,
> \- Twitter feed/ profile pictures,
> \- Numerous others.
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> Maybe if further measures were taken to prevent SVG being an attack vector, more vendors would have support for SVG and use of SVG would be more wide spread. 
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> I am not a security expert so I can not make any recommendations.
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> Please consider this proposal.

For the record SVG can be compromised in various ways other than just by JS. So much more than that would need changed / dismantled if security is the ultimate concern. But rather than purging and crippling the usefulness of the SVG spec of all these. Its more advantageous that platforms take it upon themselves to remove such SVG exploit avenues upon usage/upload/submission. Obviously Facebook, Twitter etc., see no upside in doing so or a benefit to offering SVG support in general for their users given it could easily be done upon upload.

I don’t think we should remove common usefulness across the SVG specification because some may choose to exploit it. If thats the mindset we should all then remove the windows from our homes. 😉

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**Author:** ![steve.mills](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/steve.mills/32/14961_2.png) [@steve.mills](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/steve.mills)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/25 "2021-03-19T15:28:01Z")

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I thought you were done stalking me…  
Obviously not…  
Since when do people like you complain about not having ‘inline’ scripts in SVG?  
If SVG can be used in more places, so be it…  
If not, would it matter if you couldn’t embed your JS?

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/26 "2021-03-20T01:43:23Z")

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> [@prg9](#):
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> today I inadvertently noticed your JS suggestion

> [@steve.mills](#):
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> I thought you were done stalking me

I’m not sure how you can equate me looking through a public repo as part of your continued delusions as seen throughout this thread. Trust me you’re not that important regardless if you feel you are - much like your desire to see SVG propelled onto platforms that obviously see little benefit in it.

It seems you didn’t comprehend that such things can be dynamically stripped from an SVG. So why don’t you instead knock on the doors of Facebook, Twitter and email clients and express to them what they are missing out on. I’m sure it’s just something they overlooked that only you noticed and will hurriedly change their stance once you express how they could exponentially increase profits with this singular change of heart. Then when your done with that you can be closer to your comment above that SVG works everywhere. I’m still waiting for all those other examples that you never provided. Glad I could educate you above on the email inadequacies so you could then in turn submit your request and act as if you knew it previously. Though its clear above that you did not since it was your prime example of where SVG works. :—)

Maybe you should stalk yourself and work together to try to make better sense. 😄

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**Author:** ![krilnon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/krilnon/32/34_2.png) [@krilnon](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/krilnon)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/svg-smil-probably-here-to-stay/646271/27 "2021-03-20T02:14:19Z")

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