# Table help needed

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/table-help-needed/116387>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [July 17, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/table-help-needed/116387 "2004-07-17T13:28:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![artemisio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@artemisio](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/artemisio)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/table-help-needed/116387/1 "2004-07-17T13:28:00Z")

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Hi there

this is my first post, I have enjoyed the tutorials very much, now I need a bit of help.

I’m trying to design a layout with tables.  
Please see the attachment to understand what I mean.

Cell 1 is meant to be 600 pixels wide.  
Cell 2 is meant to be 200 pixels wide.  
Cell 3 is meant to be about 150 pixels wide.  
Cell 4 then should be about 450 pixels wide.

Now my problem is that when I pull cell 3 to make it narrower, then cell 1 inherits same width as cell 3. Cell 2 as well becomes as wide as cell 4, with an unwanted repetition of the background image.

My editor is Frontpage, others editors I have tried behave exactly the same way. Ideas?

Also I wanted to ask: are table still a good idea when it comes to making layouts?

Thank you in advance, Arte

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**Author:** ![gps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@gps](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/gps)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/table-help-needed/116387/2 "2004-07-26T08:17:16Z")

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Hi,

yes MINIMALISTIK is right use manual typing height & width . This should be in persentage or in pixels and use nested tables. This will solve ur problem

G.P  
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