# The first of many

**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [May 19, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241 "2003-05-19T14:26:50Z")
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### Author: ![Halil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ea924/32.png) [@Halil](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Halil)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/1 "2003-05-19T14:26:50Z")

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Howzit going,

I just launched the first draught of my first website, I would really appreciate any comments, advice or critique.  
(well as long as it’s constructive)

I have lots of work left to do still, but I think it’s ready for a viewing…you tell me.

thanks,  
Cheers

P.S It’s a South African software company based in Cape Town

[www.archsoftware.co.za](http://www.archsoftware.co.za)

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#### Post date: [May 19, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/2 "2003-05-19T16:17:46Z")

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cool site. i like it a lot. I don’t think that there is much to change. The only thing i would do is make the button rollover animation faster. But other than that, it’s very good.  
Peace

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#### Post date: [May 19, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/3 "2003-05-19T17:36:27Z")

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it’s pretty cool. i think it’d look better if your modules’ titles were a different font to the font in the module.

oh, and the page is too tall… I get scrollbars… imo, it could do with being about 75-100 pixels shorter. oh, the same goes for the splash page - that’s too wide and too high!

keep up the good work though!

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/4 "2003-05-20T08:34:36Z")

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I agree Stigma , the faster the better.  
What did you think of the loading time? (what’s your connection speed?)

Asphalt, thank you for pointing that out, is your screen set to 800x600 ?, because I designed it on 1024x768 and 1280x1024.  
I guess I should accommodate all screen res.

As for the font, I’m using two fonts “bank goth” and the pixelfont, I suppose i could use “bank goth” for the heading.

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/5 "2003-05-20T08:53:43Z")

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I like it. Not that original but i like ti never the less.

Seems to be very 2 advanced inspired but not to closely. I think one or two of the sounds are the same. Some of tha amimation has the same feel.

Love the buttons. Very cool and slick. Love the color shceme and the HTML bg. Loveing the sub navigation. I would maybe do something more to indicate that there are buttons in the sub modules. Also your back button seems a little bulky to the rest of that navigation but it is good that u made it noticable.

I hope you are doing something more to the header. Seems like a big waste of space right now.

Love the sub header graphics as well.

Splash page seems overly big. Do something to shrik it down a bit.

Very nice well put together site. Smooth animations with good navigation. A deffinat winner :A+: :thumb:

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/6 "2003-05-20T09:14:40Z")

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That’s a nice site. How did you make that rotation thing up the top? did you use swfit?

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 9:35am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/7 "2003-05-20T09:35:08Z")

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Yeah Sintax I admit I was inspired by among others 2advanced  
(keen eye you got there) , but can you blame me, they rule.

Like I mentioned this was my first attempt, that’s why it’s so conservative, but I have big plans for this site and I’m here to get advice, you made good points and in the near future all of these wrinkles will be ironed out thanks to you guys.

Thanks for the “Krit”

Rythematics you guessed it, Swift 3d, the only way to go.

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/8 "2003-05-20T17:14:14Z")

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nope i can’t blame u. THe first stie i built was inspired by them as well. But mine didnt’ coem close to the quality you got going there. Plus you did a good job of taken what they had on there site and making your own ideas out of them which is good. Can’t wait to see a finished version.

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/9 "2003-05-20T20:53:28Z")

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i’m viewing it in 1024x768… perhaps it’s my monitor… appears ok on my other pc!

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/10 "2003-05-20T21:03:10Z")

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How about a smaller file size? I have dial-up and the loading time is incessantly slow… then again maybe I just need cable or something 🙂

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#### Post date: [May 20, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/11 "2003-05-20T22:52:20Z")

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I have a cable connection and the waiting time was ok, but i’m not used to waiting to acces sites 😉  
maybe you could try to split your www into multiple movies.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/12 "2003-05-21T02:20:22Z")

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Hey, Well I feel like I’m joining the party kinda late but Oh well!!

Good work on the site.  
I found the HTML page took longer to load than the rest of the site. Could just be a bad day for my connection?

Your buttons are a bit to close to the site you copied. I would defiantly change them to something more original.

It would be handy if it told you what section you were in after you clicked the button.

In _Res Dev_ [Is that research and development? If so maybe find a word that fits] the BG cogs look cool but would look better if you took the white outlines off of them.

I clicked _Interview With A Programmer_ and it has some text and a button saying _Read the whole interview_. Why? Why not just have the entire interview after the first click?? If you do click that button, it launches a popup window. It would look better if it was setout on the main page with maybe a next and back button if needed.

News section: The text saying _Arch in high places_ [as is some of the other text throughout the site] is blurred. If it’s a pixel font you need to put it on the .0 X and Y. Same again for the _Loading_ text that appears after you click a button.

The graphic at the top left throughout the site seems to be activated by roll on and off making it a bit jerky. You could try using telltarget and only have it activate on one state. This would sort it out. The space to the right of it seems wasted to me. You could have something relevant in it.

I seem to be going off on one as usual so I’ll just stop for now.

It is good work, so don’t take offence from my comments/suggestions.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/13 "2003-05-21T04:18:24Z")

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Maybe it’s just me, but your pixel font looks a lil blurry. Make sure all your text boxes are on whole pixel coordinates. It is a lil trend whorish, but not too bad. Other than that it’s a good start.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/14 "2003-05-21T12:28:50Z")

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Well, you see all the text boxes are .0, but they are all seperate .swf’s wich are loaded into the secondary navigation and that is then loaded into the main interface so the position of the txt boxes change based on the position of the empty MC’s they are loaded into.

When these MC’s and txt boxes’ positions’ ( X Y coordinates) are added together (I guess) it adds up and becomes .363344 or .anything other than .0. I guess what i’m trying to say is i know about the problem, what i don’t know is how to fix it (yet).

Any Ideas?

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/15 "2003-05-21T14:51:39Z")

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I would increase the hit state size of the buttons in the 6 minimodules (the 2advanced buttons) It’s a bit fiddly at the moment.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/16 "2003-05-21T15:36:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Halil \*  
> \*\*Well, you see all the text boxes are .0, but they are all seperate .swf’s wich are loaded into the secondary navigation and that is then loaded into the main interface so the position of the txt boxes change based on the position of the empty MC’s they are loaded into.

When these MC’s and txt boxes’ positions’ ( X Y coordinates) are added together (I guess) it adds up and becomes .363344 or .anything other than .0. I guess what i’m trying to say is i know about the problem, what i don’t know is how to fix it (yet).

Any Ideas?\*\*  
ok, make sure your text boxes are at 0 and everything that contains them sits on a whole pixel. the secondary navigation swf should sit on a whole pixel inside the main interface. basically… all the empty MC’s should be on whole pixels. that should sort it out.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/17 "2003-05-21T16:11:49Z")

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OK, Lets have a vote.

Who thinks my submenu buttons look to much like “2advanced”?

I’ve been comparing them, and now even i’m starting to wonder.

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/18 "2003-05-21T16:25:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Halil \*  
> \*\*OK, Lets have a vote.

Who thinks my submenu buttons look to much like “2advanced”?

I’ve been comparing them, and now even i’m starting to wonder. \*\*

Change them man. You’ll feel so much better about your site 🙂

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#### Post date: [May 21, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/19 "2003-05-21T16:30:31Z")

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Ya your main menu is fine but your sub meun buttons are bigger but way to the same. Change it to something that you know is a button cause the one u have even know is a little to plane.

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#### Post date: [May 22, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-first-of-many/21241/20 "2003-05-22T17:18:29Z")

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Well,

I did it, i removed all those troublesome little buttons and went for something more obvious.

“It would be handy if it told you what section you were in after you clicked the button.” good idea KEL, now it does.

Thanks to everyone who responded, i really appreciate all of your advice and “krit”. 🙂

Lots more renovations, innovations and additions on the way, so watch this space…

[www.archsoftware.co.za](http://www.archsoftware.co.za)

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