# The Purpose of life for an Atheist **URL:** \ **Category:** talk\ **Created:** [July 15, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664 "2004-07-15T04:43:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664/201 "2004-07-26T14:40:11Z")
I’m an athiest, For one I’ve gotten by in life just great using my wits and instincts, I don’t need anyone watching over me. Secondly if god, allah, vishnu, ganesh and all the other god people were so consciensious about creating a nice place for us humans to live, how come they don’t show us how pis\*ed off they are when we kill a million people and say it was in the name of god? Religion is a massive killer. No thanks, don’t want to be associated with one of the most pointless and ancient excuses for murder, mass murder, mass mass mass murder and so forth. Jewish persecution, Jihads, The Spanish Inquisition, The Great Witch Hunts, The Vatican so many dead “in the name of god”. Summing it up really, don’t need got, got on fine without god and will continue to. I can understand peoples confusion in that I don’t believe in this… but its not a lack of faith, I just have faith in other things. I have faith that people will put down childish things, stop believing these politicians and put Quantum Leap back on TV! Seriously, I have faith in things I can see, thats my purpose. Thanks for listening to these wild ramblings. ---
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> [@Msgplus](#): > > /streck Result: **live long and prosper** ---
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Hey Slowroaster, why did you go all the way to nicaragua? I mean you could’ve just sent the money your church wasted on plane tickets to them and I’m sure they’d be much happier. ---
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> Quantum Leap back on TV! Bring back Sam ! Bring back Sam ! Although the last episode was crap… I don’t remember it exactly… Was it that God was stopping him from returning home so that he could do Gods work. And then he was given the choice to return home or continue Gods work. And he picked to continue? He can disapear from the bridge of the Enterprise like magic, and go back to his Quantum leaping. Perhaps Q can join him in his travels. 😃 ---
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we gave them free labor by being down there, some of the guys that came with us that made a really elaborate gate for them would have cost a lot of money if they paid for it. We also put on a vacation bible school and did activities and sports with the local kids. Also it was just a good experience for all of us that went. It was nice to see where our money was going, it was great to help them out personally and not just sending a check, it was also eye opening to see in person how a third world country really is. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664/206 "2004-08-04T07:32:46Z")
> [@anwiyayoukhanna](#): > > What is the purpose of life for an atheist? **Is not their ultimate task suicide?** > > This is not meant to be offensive. I will behave myself. I’ve been gone for a while and I don’t really feel like reading through all the other replies so here we go… [size=1][color=darkred] **kirupa\_delete:** You should read through all the replies before calling his idea stupid. I think by you posting the flamewar graphic, my edit should not seem all that surprising ;)[/color][/size] ---
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… can’t you leave it so that we can at least read what he said 😃 fine ☹ ---
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He wrote a short sentence that said something similar to calling the idea stupid 🙂 If there was evidence or justification for his opinion, I would have definitely left it as is. The flame graphic didn’t help either hehe. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664/209 "2004-08-05T03:49:28Z")
ah I see… so I guess there was no fun points to examine and then look over :(… oh well, maybe next time 😃 ---
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athiest’s goal: do what you want(within reason) and realize you and you alone are responsible. religious believer’s goal: do what your god wants(within reason) and _don’t_ realize that you and you alone are responsible. (more wars based on religion than atheism my friends) 😛 ---
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> (more wars based on religion than atheism my friends) Thats an unrealisitic statment, religion was just an excuse, our countries are sent to wars without religion, just replace that with “homeland” “patriotism” and or “money” ---
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why would somone use religion as an “excuse”? thats not very christian is it? i would contend that religion is a scapegoat then and allows for atrocities to be committed. 3000+ innocent wtc workers can’t be wrong jihad (not rude just a point). i personally believe that religion is a way for people (man in general) to blame what happens on someone other than themselves or accept that what has happened has happened for no alterior reason. when early man began he blamed floods and natural disasters on a higher being not just accept it as something that happened. by having someone higher up you can always blame the boss for the failings of the workers. ---
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> why would somone use religion as an “excuse”? thats not very christian is it? not very christian, maybe, but so very historical… God is dead anyhow. ---
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lol ---
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Unfotunately the great majority of religions have used their power and authority at some point in time to influence events. It’s still happening now. You’re absolutely right to say that religion has been the cause of a lot of deaths. I don’t agree with it. I think religion should have no part in government/war. The fact that priests are blessing troops as they go off to war is pretty sick, don’t you think? ---
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> [@=guinness=](#): > > why would somone use religion as an “excuse”? thats not very christian is it? > > i would contend that religion is a scapegoat then and allows for atrocities to be committed. 3000+ innocent wtc workers can’t be wrong jihad (not rude just a point). And all the innocent Iraqis that have been killed by both GB’s invasions, or don’t we remember them. ---
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Those deaths were also caused in part by religion(s). ---
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> [@=guinness=](#): > > why would somone use religion as an “excuse”? thats not very christian is it? > > i would contend that religion is a scapegoat then and allows for atrocities to be committed. 3000+ innocent wtc workers can’t be wrong jihad (not rude just a point). > > i personally believe that religion is a way for people (man in general) to blame what happens on someone other than themselves or accept that what has happened has happened for no alterior reason. when early man began he blamed floods and natural disasters on a higher being not just accept it as something that happened. by having someone higher up you can always blame the boss for the failings of the workers. If it is not religion, it would be something else, just replace it with “politics” “terrorists” or “fruits” (see Necoragua). Its ignorant to think that if religion wasnt here we would have no wars. Go to google, and do a search for a book called “The Prince” by Macheavelli. ---
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Machiavelli. Great read indeed. How to gain power by fooling everyone else… In short, seem to play nice, but be a real bastard. seem to follow everyone’s opinion but make everyone’s opinion be like yours. kill the ones in power and don’t get killed. FAKE YOUR BELIEFS IN GOD BUT ONLY BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. The others have to be sheeps, they need the shepherd, and though you want them to believe you’re a sheep like them, be the shepherd… great book indeed. And extremely up-to-date for a 15th century book… ---
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> If it is not religion, it would be something else, just replace it with “politics” “terrorists” or “fruits” (see Necoragua). Its ignorant to think that if religion wasnt here we would have no wars. I never said that without religion there would be no war. I stated that religion has been the reason for many wars (whether the truth or not it was the reason given) and the fact you pointed out that religion could be replaced proves that it is a scapegoat and by that i mean it is blamed on religion. Follow? Does the fact that it can be replaced not show that it is no better or worse than the substitutes you provided? The main part of my last post was my view that man is a lonely individual who cannot accept responsibility or reality and must create his own. [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/the-purpose-of-life-for-an-atheist/57664.md?page=12)