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**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [April 7, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587 "2003-04-07T08:14:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@Hawk](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Hawk)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/1 "2003-04-07T08:14:32Z")

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what i think is the final draft for my website, which is planned to be flash, but will likely end up as an html site until i get some real flash skillz

peace  
hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 10:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/2 "2003-04-07T10:27:59Z")

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One thing comes to mind when looking at this layout…“2advanced”

Even though it looks nice, I think you should find a way to break away from the 2a look and develope your own style.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/3 "2003-04-07T11:19:36Z")

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STILL?!

ahhh !@#$%…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/4 "2003-04-07T11:31:45Z")

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yah id think it was amazing if i hadnt seen 2 advanced… u have the skillz be urself

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/5 "2003-04-07T11:34:30Z")

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grr… i didnt copy 2a!.. and i dont plan on changing anything, in fact… i think mine and 2a are very different… unless you use general terms such as… they are both blue, they are both neat looking…

but, they use buildings, a darker blue, square…not slanted buttons and such, superduper flash skills…

see, many differences

hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/6 "2003-04-07T16:55:28Z")

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hm… looks nice, but:  
2a - subcontent, text area and buttons and so  
Your layout looks really good, but it’s a bit too similar to 2advanced. =)

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/7 "2003-04-07T20:30:10Z")

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u got the same circle logo at the top just a differnt letter inside…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/8 "2003-04-07T23:43:27Z")

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ok, let me explain…  
attached is a file of the 2a site next to my template…

notice…

1. the colors… although both are blue, i have a wider range of blues and mine are lighter

2. mine is more complex… while 2a is simple yet detailed

3. YES MINE SAYS SUBCONTENT, 2a says sub.data… they use a dot, i dont… and its different… (if you have something else i can put there then say it… i think sub\_\_\_\_\_\_ is appropriate)

4. look at the shapes…, just actually look at them… my navigation is slanted… my boxes for text… etc. have a sliced corner…mine has lots of angles, 2a is very straight and dynamic

5. OK, THE LOGO THING THAT I HAVE THAT IS LIKE 2A IS KINDA RIPPISH, but not a total rip… not much of a rip actually… i was toying with the circular thing for a long time, before i saw 2a…

ok, thas it… i hope i made my point!!

btw… GL TO ME ON MY SITE!! MWA HAHAHAHAA

peace  
hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/9 "2003-04-07T23:57:12Z")

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It looks nice. I’d say the 2 sites look similar, but I’ve seen a few around with the same look… you’re not the first.

In your defence I’d say that this kind of look is almost a genre now. I like it 😉

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/10 "2003-04-07T23:59:43Z")

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yes, a new genre… i liiiiiike…

😃

(also i think one highlight of this design that i am proud of are those gearlike shapes in the bottom right… i love em)

hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/11 "2003-04-08T00:02:04Z")

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i didnt think it was 2a cause his site is much brighter…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/12 "2003-04-08T00:11:57Z")

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hehe… hate to say it, but that gear thing has been done before too! Hard to be a pioneer when almost everything has been done before, but it’s not impossible. I agree with parabol when he said you have the skills to be yourself… I can see this design evolving into something more original if you work at it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/13 "2003-04-08T00:32:58Z")

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exactly… us gots the skillz boyeeee 🙂 make it do somethin i never seen!

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/14 "2003-04-08T01:08:18Z")

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bah, hard to be original when ALMOST everything has been done… plus, when you try to be original, stuff you seen juss comes out and works its way subconciously into the piece :\

o well… i like it for version one… for v2 ill branch out a bit

peace  
hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/15 "2003-04-08T05:16:00Z")

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i don’t notice many similarities except for the blue color scheme (which about almost every web designer uses nowadays), and you guys concentrate too much on finding some. You can really make new designers feel bad if you only critisice them…  
anyway,… nice work, Hawk… i like your design a lot.  
but i’d like to see it all “in action”… 🙂

but to make all those other people happy, maybe you could experiment with other colors as well but only as far as you like it…  
keep up the good work people.  
peace

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:50am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/16 "2003-04-08T09:50:11Z")

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whether it looks like 2a or not … me likey

one thing i noticed lately is that some peeps are b\*\*\*\*\*\*  
too much about layouts being copied and stuff …

isn’t this how most people start out ???

you create your own “style” step by step … you see stuff you like  
you try to copy it … you try to give it your personal touch …

its a process … at least thats the way i look at it

lat0rrrrrrrr

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/17 "2003-04-08T17:24:30Z")

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thx for the support!

maybe ill try…purple:q:

_inner concious_:trout:

i think the only colors that people really use are: blue, green, orange, and red

peace  
hawk

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/18 "2003-04-08T21:06:47Z")

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then choose something not in that range

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/19 "2003-04-09T01:48:49Z")

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lol, i dont think they look good, ive been using this blue gray for awhile

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/topic/17587/20 "2003-04-09T01:58:41Z")

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then leave it the way it is (or the way you like it). If you are sure that you didn’t copy the design from someone else, noone can tell you to change it…

peace

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