# Total noob question about mc origin point

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/total-noob-question-about-mc-origin-point/310774>\
**Category:** flash\
**Created:** [June 18, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/total-noob-question-about-mc-origin-point/310774 "2010-06-18T18:02:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skarab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Skarab](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Skarab)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/total-noob-question-about-mc-origin-point/310774/1 "2010-06-18T18:02:26Z")

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This is something I’ve wondered about and been meaning to ask for a long time: there are two icons that become visible when a mc is selected, a small crosshair and a small circle. Sometimes they’re in the same place, sometimes not. I understand the small crosshair is the origin, where all transforms originate from, but what’s the circle, and what does it mean when the two icons are in different locations?

Thanks!