# Trying to create 3d crytals **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 22, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480 "2002-11-22T01:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![calaway42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@calaway42](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/calaway42)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/1 "2002-11-22T01:10:49Z")
hey i have been trying to create 3d crytals based on this tuts [http://www.voidix.com/cystal.html](http://www.voidix.com/cystal.html) but once i create 400x400 page… i can’t click on filter\>render\>lense flare… (lense flare is unclickable). can anyone help? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/2 "2002-11-22T01:20:08Z")
Fill your layer with Black and then use the Lens Flare. A Lens Flare can only be used on an object, if the layer is empty, you can’t use it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/3 "2002-11-22T01:27:54Z")
lost you are wrong. all you do is set your forground color to black, then do alt+backspace, then Filter|Render|Lense Flair. note: this must be done in the bg layer. glad to help, contact if you have troubble, mike ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/4 "2002-11-22T01:29:29Z")
mdipi, you pretty much just said the same thing I said. Except the lens flare does not \HAVE\ to be done in the background. So how am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/5 "2002-11-22T01:43:38Z")
just the fact that you said there had to be something in the layer. i should have been more specific, sorry if you took it the wrong way, my bad. [edit]for this tut its better if you do have it in the bg. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/6 "2002-11-22T02:05:44Z")
You do have to have something in the layer. If you do it on the background layer, it is already filled. If you are doing it on a new layer (the way I did the tutorial), you need to fill the layer, because you can’t put the flare in an empty layer. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/7 "2002-11-22T02:09:47Z")
mdipi… lost is correct on this one - YOU **CANNOT** ADD A LENS FLARE TO AN EMPTY LAYER. Peace ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/8 "2002-11-22T02:12:48Z")
If it is any cosolation, I think that tutorial wasn’t written as good as it could have been. I wasn’t sure whether or not to use the background layer for it, so I created a new layer and did everything in there, returned the same results. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/9 "2002-11-22T06:55:07Z")
thanx guys 😃 p.s. hey lost! long time no chat 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/10 "2002-11-22T06:55:59Z")
Lol, definitely. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/11 "2002-11-22T06:57:18Z")
…Flame packs anyone? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/12 "2002-11-22T06:58:48Z")
What do you mean morse? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/13 "2002-11-22T08:32:51Z")
lost, i made 400x400 file then created new layer, filled it with black and go filter\>render\>and “lens flare” is still unclickable… what did i do wrong? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/14 "2002-11-22T08:37:44Z")
Do you have that layer selected? I just tried and it works fine for me. It did when I did the tutorial as well. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/15 "2002-11-22T22:25:51Z")
you HAVE to use the bg layer, fill it with black thats all, otherwise it wont work… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/16 "2002-11-22T22:38:57Z")
errrrr… for some reason my “lens flare” is still unclickable… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/17 "2002-11-22T22:51:48Z")
Did you try using the bg layer calaway. Mdipi: I did the entire tutorial without using the background layer, you do not HAVE to use the background layer. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/18 "2002-11-22T23:01:35Z")
ya i just tried first, i filled the bg layer with black then select the bg layer and fiter \> rander\> but lens flare’s unclickable ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/19 "2002-11-22T23:07:59Z")
Go to the top menu under: Image \>\>\> Mode \>\>\> RGB Color You are probably running that image as greyscale or indexed color…does this work for you? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480/20 "2002-11-22T23:26:51Z")
sweeet thanx dan! after i changed to RGB color it works !! 😃 thanx [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/trying-to-create-3d-crytals/8480.md?page=2)