# Upgrading my Pc\_need some information **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [May 4, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045 "2003-05-04T14:47:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wayne](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/wayne/32/16501_2.png) [@Wayne](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Wayne)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/1 "2003-05-04T14:47:57Z")
Before upgrading my Pc I whant to know somethings. I whant to upgrade to P4. 2.3 mhz and many people say P4 dos not get hot fast but AMB processor get Hot faster than P4 ! AMD is cheaper but P4 is not ! -What is the different between Pentium and AMD ? -Shall I wait for Pentium 5 ? is it the same prise ? -If Pentium 5 comes do the prise of P4 gos down ? -When shall P5 come out ? I dont know what to buy `? Thank you for the help. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/2 "2003-05-04T15:13:09Z")
what i’ve got to say is processor speed now are way far ahead of all the other parts of your computer… If you upgrade your PC make sure you put LOTS of ram, consider switching to 512m or more, and get a decent 3d card, either for 3d working or games… I personnaly like AMDs better because I hate intel and they always make crap, processors that go half as fast as they claim… If you upgrade the WHOLE computer than make sur you get a large screen too (if you do designing stuff) i personnaly have a 21" screen and im really happy even though it did cost lots of $$$$… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/3 "2003-05-04T15:25:01Z")
It all depends on how much you are willing to pay for your upgrade. The newer Pentium 4 processors are by far better than what AMD can offer. Faster bus speeds and faster Rambus ram ensure that more demanding apps/games work well. For casual use, I strongly doubt you’ll see any major difference when picking either one. As mlk mentioned, ram is key - get as much as you can! For some benchmarks, try this one: [http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1810&p=18](http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1810&p=18) The intel is marginally better than the amd in most non-business oriented tests. Cheers! Kirupa 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/4 "2003-05-04T16:21:35Z")
If P5 komes out will P4 prises go down ? and Motherbord Im bying is this. “NOTE” I will Upgrade my pc few days before sommer. !!! [Motherbord\_Information\_sorry its in Nor.](http://www.komplettdata.no/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=25150&t=845&l=1&AvdID=1&CatID=10&GrpID=9&s=pl) [[This is the P4 2.4 prosessor\_Information](http://www.komplettdata.no/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=23664&l=1&AvdID=1&CatID=10&GrpID=9&s=kom) [Tower Information](http://www.komplettdata.no/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=24480&t=589&l=2&AvdID=1&CatID=13&GrpID=6&s=pl) Whant I saw pentium is good ! is that what you saying Kirupa ? ! mlk = I will buy MANY RAM ! I promes you that is cheap ! LOL “They” did find out that P4 3.0 have a bug ! :trout: This is improtant becouse Im having hard times here ! Im afraid that if I Upgrade I get a slow machine and many bugs like what I have here right now ! The pc Im using is a P2 350 mhz ! 192 ram and its very good I used it to creat mostly everything ! from 3d to programming… I have Geforce 2 Mx 100/200 ! I will keep my CD- Disk - secreen- but I will change tower, motherbord + soundcard, Prosessor, Ram to 512 and I will upgrade ram every month ! Please tell me more ! Thank you very much! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/5 "2003-05-04T17:53:08Z")
Another thing, check out the RAM speed (i think it’s either 66hz, 100 hz or a 133Hz) because if you dont have the same speed for every bar of ram it wont fit… I really dont know about processors though, but I think anything over a ghz and a 1/2 is fine… Processors are developped much faster than all the rest… if you are into game take care of a good sound card to… with a good dvd player you’ve got your own home cinema :beam: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/6 "2003-05-04T20:08:54Z")
I recommend AMD over Pentuim any day, just make sure you get a good cooling system if possible a watercooling one works wonders, and get at least 1 gig o ram Hey Kirupa man why would you recommend a processor thats better under non business oriented tests?? I mean i use my computer mainly for business not just for show know what i mean?? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/7 "2003-05-04T21:22:52Z")
I’m an AMD man myself. If you’re worried about heat, don’t. With a decent heatsink and fan you shouldn’t have any problems… the new Athlon XP’s and most motherboards also have a heat shutoff feature that’ll power everything down before anything gets damaged. My 1.63 ghz athlon xp 1800+ can easily outperform p4 chips up to 2 ghz in benchmarks, keep in mind it’s not only the Mhz that you should look after. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/8 "2003-05-05T12:29:17Z")
AMD is cheap and good ! Every PC have a cooler right ? =\> see my tower information “link above” Have you guys checkt the link above about the pc ! Thanx for the usefull information ! Now I dont know what to realy buy Pentium or AMD ! Im not looking for a advanced maskine I dont whant to pay that much for it ! I whant to know how many hours I can work with my AMD prosessor so that the AMD prosessor will get very hot ? 6 H 2 - 3 H `? how many hours so it get Hot…etc ? If it gets hot fast then \>I will not buy like this type becouse its bad like after 6 or 5 hours its bad ! Thanx :tb: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/9 "2003-05-05T12:40:27Z")
I like AMD. Thats just me. The new P4s with the higher bus speeds are looking nice though, and the hyperthreading is a treat. Of course if you google amd vs intel in terms of hate and sucks, you get about 5 times as many for intel 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/10 "2003-05-05T13:21:35Z")
Us computer geeks can be so mean 🙂 I personally like AMD as well. I know that the new Intel’s are supposed to be really fast but when you look at price comparison within the two - AMD is by far the better choice IMO. As everyone has said. You need at least 512 when it comes to ram. The more the better. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/11 "2003-05-05T13:30:31Z")
hehehe ! Okay If I buy a AMD with 2.0 + mhz I need at least 512 mb ram ! I will right this note too ! I will not buy the “latest” P4 with 3.0 mhz I whant cheaper ! like p4 2.3. :tie: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/12 "2003-05-05T13:42:23Z")
Ill just reinforce the RAM deal here. The more the merrier! … that may not apply so much to laptops since it can lessen battery life 😉 but otherwise beef it up! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/13 "2003-05-06T13:08:44Z")
I will buy AMD athlon XP 2400 + ! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/14 "2003-05-08T12:40:47Z")
Ok ! I asked a PC “man” He told me :- -If you buy a cheap thing then its bad something is bad in it ! “sometimes or most” thats AMD ! ☹ -If A thing is high prise then its good and will last long ! = Intel P4. 🙂 I got worrid ! why is AMD cheap becouse there is a bad thing in it ? :trout: Pentium is good becouse it wins allwas other AMD. AMD is in the back allways and Pentium is creating better and better every time ! Im using Pentium ! Tell me what you think ? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/15 "2003-05-08T15:37:33Z")
AMD ois cheaper because it does not put as much money into advertising and security actually built into the chip, which also sends them to the back because they never spend to much money on the advertising side, i personally have the AMD 2400+ and it is real nice and i also got a pentium 2.3 ghz and there is no way it beats the amd in speed maybe in security but this takes up speed in the processor i say go with the AMD 2400+ and get a \*\*\*\*e load of ram 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/16 "2003-05-08T16:15:32Z")
yeah - intel and microsoft both are evils, they poison our machines… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/17 "2003-05-08T17:26:15Z")
> \*Originally posted by mlkdesign \* > \*\*yeah - intel and microsoft both are evils, they poison our machines… \*\* so you hate Intel Becouse its with Microsoft ? Of AMD with Microsoft then you have AMD ? becouse you are a Mac user ? Im not like that I need to know who is the good one and effecktive so the prosessor will last longer and have good effeckt ! I can work good with webdesign and edit Images and Films and play games ! -He also told me That AMD is good for games and nothing other stuff ! just good for gaming ! -Intel is good for everything he said `? I whant to know why you guys realy like AMD becouse Im a Microsoft user and I like Microsoft but I like Pentium and AMD And Im having trouble finding the right one for my pc ! If you hate Microsoft becouse they are with Intel and AMD is not thats out of the \* Whats wrong with Pentium and wrong in AMD and good in these ? Just tell ! Note:- There are many people I have asked, they said AMD is better but they have WinXP and they like Microsoft ! I think AMD is good ! but I just need some more prove ! -information and prove ! thank you very very much. just tell… :A+: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/18 "2003-05-08T21:43:49Z")
> \*Originally posted by Blastboy \* > \*\* -He also told me That AMD is good for games and nothing other stuff ! just good for gaming ! -Intel is good for everything he said `?\*\* hahahha thats funny i wonder why he said AMD is best for games, maybe its because the processing speed and ram speed is better and because it renders 3D objects faster, AMD is better and faster than any Pentium chip except the xeon processor from pentium IMHO ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2003, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/19 "2003-05-09T11:25:55Z")
My opinion: If price doesn’t matter go Intel, if it does go AMD, its more bang for your $ Ive got a Athlon 1.8 and a pentium 4 2.4 both do enough for most of the stuff I ever use. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2003, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/20 "2003-05-09T11:32:08Z")
hmm ! Well if you have Athlon 1.8 and P4 2.4 —\> nothing is diferent ! P4 is high price and AMD is low price so AMD is good becouse its low price but same preformants and speed…etc `??? :trout: [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045.md?page=2)