# Upgrading my Pc\_need some information

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**Created:** [May 4, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045 "2003-05-04T14:47:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 9, 2003, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/21 "2003-05-09T11:46:14Z")

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I didnt say there wasnt a difference… obvisouly a 1.8 athlon isn’t going to be as powerful as a 2.4 pentim 4, expecially with the difference in video card that i have. But for what I use it for (some programming, graphics and games) there both great.  
I would go athlon but thats because im cheap 😉

My opinion: for the average user, hardware is much more powerful than most software requires…

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/22 "2003-05-10T08:37:43Z")

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cool !

Okay If I buy a AMD, how many “fans” do I need to buy for my AMD to “NOT Melt my Motherbord” ☹

thx

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/23 "2003-05-16T15:02:01Z")

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My friend Bought a New PC a week ago !

He have P4 2.53 with 100 GB or 120 ?? and 512 ram !  
He said there is no different with P4 or AMD !

He pc is so fast ! O man !! SO fast ! very better than me :hangover:

There is very big differents between P4 and P2 :elderly:

I just kant wait - P4 or AMD ! :hangover: :hangover: :hangover: :hangover:

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/24 "2003-05-16T15:15:26Z")

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If i were you and I’m nor… I would buy a P4 processor, I had an AMD xp 2200+ or some bull\*\*\*\* like that. Anyways, the processor fan was gone for max 1-2 seconds and that \*\*\*\* thing just burned up. AMD gets TOO hot. Now I have a p4 2.53 mhz, it works great, not as much noise, very smooth.

Go for the P4! They’re battling a lot with AMD so prices for the +2.0 ghz are lowered constantly, i bought my 2.53 for like 100$.

And i hade 2 fans and one Zalman copper cooling device thingy. Also, if you buy an AMD you better buy some silver CPU paste, its the best and it lowers the temperature a lot.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/25 "2003-06-08T10:49:39Z")

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omG !

Thanks for your “post”

Someone says AMD and some say Pentium ?

Why did the \*\*\* thing burn ? becouse you Overcloake it or what ?  
Im using it to Adobe photoshop and flash mx and webdesign + some games like Counter-strike and Splinter Cell…  
3d max 4…

I do not whant my PC to melt :hangover: :hangover:

I will ask PC engeneers and see what they say about this.

but I was just going to buy the AMD Athlon XP 2800+ ☹ Oh man this is hard \*\*\*\*

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/26 "2003-06-08T13:13:15Z")

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I suggest go AMD. The Pentium 4’s claim to go 2,4 GHz but the actual performance will be way less. AMD’s processor runs at a lower clockspeed but they will easily outperform Intel P4s. That’s why they’re called 2400+ , it indicates that the performance equals a 2400MHz processor. In reality, it actually runs at 2,4 Ghz not like the P4 running at half speed all the time.

I’ve always liked AMD more, Intel’s processors run at half of the speed they are supposed to. AMD’s processors do what they’re supposed to, they rule.

The key is RAM indeed, buy as much as you can, 512 MB is the minimum.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/27 "2003-06-08T18:31:50Z")

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Thank you very much 🙂

I really like to choos AMD 2800+ and 1GB of ram…

Thank you very much all.

If you have any other information or something please lett me know by posting a reply.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/28 "2003-06-08T18:40:50Z")

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Good choice 🙂 Some advice :

1. Make sure you have enough free PCI slots.
2. If you’re up for gaming, buy the fastest card there is. At the moment, the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro is the fastest I think. Until GeForce 5 is released, that is.
3. If you’re up for gaming, buy a decent harddisk too. It’s a very important part of gaming.

That’s about the most important part 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/29 "2003-06-08T20:13:06Z")

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ok I will remmember that to (-:

I will have about 40 or 60 GB then I will add more…  
Ram yes 1 GB…

Motherbord well I must check, but how many shall I have of PCI slots ?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/30 "2003-06-09T07:34:22Z")

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Well, 4 or 5 free PCI slots is recommended, so you’ll have enough slots to upgrade later.

PS If you have the money for it, try to get a motherboard that supports RAID striping. Boy, that’s fast ! It cuts the general read and write time by half, which is a blessing for gaming :beam:

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/31 "2003-06-09T09:38:58Z")

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ok thanx a LOT man you help me much and also the other memmbers.

okay her me have 4 or 5 free pci slots and a Motherboard who support Raid striping… okay.

Waiting for more comments…

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/32 "2003-06-09T09:52:50Z")

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intel is much better then AMD

i will try to find it but a uni in LA did some computer test and an AMD 2.4 come out the same as an Intel P4 2.1

so intel is much faster.

(i will try to find it before you start a fight AMD fans)

and you need that graphics and RAM updates

i have a Ge-force MX440 (pitiful) and 512mb Ram (not bad) and a 1.9 intel P4. My machine can handel anything apart for GTA3 for some reason, but i think that is my graphics card.

your looking at some really high priced up-grade you should look into getting a new CPU, they are only about £400 if you don’t but a monitor and stuff with it, that what i did because i have a 19’ sony monitor so i didn’t not want a new one.

Although Ram is VERY cheao now and a new chip is not that much but it depends on what you want it for.

:thumb:

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/33 "2003-06-09T10:26:03Z")

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I whant it to not get hot and is fast and can handel games and graphic programs 3d programs…etc

Many guys said AMD is good ?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/34 "2003-06-09T10:28:22Z")

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buy a cooler and turn your PC off when you don’t use it

my PC getting hot has never even been a issue for me or anyone i know for that matter:P

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/35 "2003-06-09T10:30:31Z")

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okay but a AMD 2800+ is a good prossecor :thumb:

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/36 "2003-06-09T10:43:35Z")

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yes VERY

but not as good as an Intel 2.8

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/37 "2003-06-09T10:45:56Z")

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I’ve got an AMD in one of my home PCs, and never had any problems with it. It hasn’t ever over-heated or anything, and I tend to be quite heavy on it with the programs I run. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/38 "2003-06-09T11:16:37Z")

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I would choose AMD over Intel anyday. I have found intel to be far to unstable and not as long-lasting as AMD. (also, AMD are cheaper 🙂 )

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/39 "2003-06-09T15:54:35Z")

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cool !

you guys made me love AMD :thumb:

I liket Pentium becouse it was popular and have a cool name but what dose AMD stands for ? “American Media Devolopers” or something ?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/upgrading-my-pc-need-some-information/20045/40 "2003-06-09T16:21:40Z")

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no idea. just tried a search for it, but just came up with e-commerce sites. It could mean anything. I like to think it stands for somthing silly like **A** ll **M** ighty **D** onky

(“why, with a donky like that, i could take over the world!”)

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