# Views on Christianity

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726>\
**Category:** random\
**Created:** [December 17, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726 "2002-12-17T12:33:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Danno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Danno](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Danno)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/1 "2002-12-17T12:33:59Z")

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Hey,

So I know. Let’s start talking about religious beliefs. Actually. Since this is my thread 😛 , it will be narrowed down to why do you or don’t you believe in Jesus as God?

WOW i probably opened a can of worms here, but I am sincerely interested. You know being the time of the year when we supposedly focus on Jesus ::cough:: halmark ::cough::

Oh… and I would appriciate people who post, please have some sort of refrence to your opinions/views/posts/etc when posting because posts of “i just feel this way” without any backing are gonna be useless in an actual discussion.

Thanks Y’all.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/2 "2002-12-17T12:36:33Z")

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I believe in god…

I do not think that when your dead, things just end…

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/3 "2002-12-17T12:40:06Z")

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why’s that? about the whole dying thing.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/4 "2002-12-17T12:41:19Z")

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Well I just can’t believe that when you die, life just ends?! There must be something after life, something like heaven…

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/5 "2002-12-17T12:46:23Z")

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:😆:

Ok… see the main part of the opening of this thread was to have some sort of backing up for it… if ya don’t… that’s cool, i’ll leave ya alone.

But the point was to discuss your views. Not just ‘i think this because i do’

some sort of proof or else your point is moot.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/6 "2002-12-17T12:48:01Z")

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Ooooooooooo like that.

sorry, It seems I have read the text properly…

At least you know how i think about jezus, etc…

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/7 "2002-12-17T12:50:24Z")

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Hey danno,  
I understand that you don’t want to start a flame war over this. From prior experience, this topic is the equivalent of pouring gasoline all over your computer and lighting a match while others pump raw oxygen toward the flame :sleep:.

Any sign of a match being lit, I’m sure this thread will be deleted. Just adding my input =) If you are really interested in finding a good answer, there are plenty of other good boards to discuss a topic such as this. I’m sure Phil Jayhan or David or Reverendflash (the three in-house PHILospohers) know of great places where people spend a lot of their time discussing deep, open-ended questions such as this.

Cheers!  
Kirupa :+)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/8 "2002-12-17T12:54:03Z")

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Rockin,

Thanks for the reply. I just saw that this was a ‘random’ board where we can talk about anything. So i thought i’d give it a try!

Well, we’ll hope that it doesn’t catch on fire!=)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/9 "2002-12-17T12:55:48Z")

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That’s cool :rambo: I’m ready lol:

![](http://www.ilpi.com/safety/gifs/co2.gif)

Cheers!  
Kirupa :elderly:

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/10 "2002-12-17T12:57:55Z")

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:+)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/11 "2002-12-17T13:55:23Z")

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ok, here’s my take.  
i believe in …something. call it god, supreme being, whatever. life is too incredible, showing too many signs of purpose, to be just random occurance. the universe itself is so organized, and the fact of its existence alone says to me that there is some purpose for it being here.

as for the bible, quran, torah, etc. etc. i believe those are the words of men, not god. why do i believe that? because that is the most logical answer in the lack of anything convincing me otherwise.

pretty much every religion claims to be the one and only true religion. assuming that one actually is (and that assumption is a big one), then all the others are false. so you can’t listen to what the religions say to you, since they will all say the same thing - “this is the one true religion”. you just have to listen to your heart and find your own truth.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/12 "2002-12-17T14:06:25Z")

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I belive in god and I also belive that when we leave this earth there is a sort of “heaven”

I think there is a god because there are just too many unanswered questions in the “scientific” theroy’s that are out there. I mean, I know a lot of people think that’s an easy way out “since we cannot explain in it your taking the easy way out with the whole god thing” and that’s fine. Believe what you want.

I feel most people need something to belive in - it’s what drives a lot of us. I have personally been brought up as a christian and although I do not follow every rule that is set out i.e. swearing, bad thoughts on occasion…you know the usual 🙂 I feel that if you live your life with the 10 comandments in mind you should have a pretty good one and make some friends along the way

that’s just my 2 cents anyway…

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/13 "2002-12-17T14:12:43Z")

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Yaknow…

I was seriously going to post on this one, but when I got to thinking…

I am going to just bow out of this one.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/14 "2002-12-17T14:30:55Z")

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I’d like to say something, but I’m not sure it is relevant. What is the debate about exactly? Christianity? Religion in general? God?

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/15 "2002-12-17T14:37:53Z")

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Yep, Phil, back to France, I can eventually eat cheese, French baguette, croissants that don’t taste like plastic, post on the forum, watch DVDs, get drunk, flash, find an internship and become rich. Vive la France!

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/16 "2002-12-17T15:16:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Phil Jayhan \*  
> \*\*I think I am going to heaven…i.e. spend eternity with god, because Jesus Christ died for my sins, all of them at the cross.

lol again phil! 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/17 "2002-12-17T18:49:41Z")

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I’m Christian! 😛

Seriously, my name’s Christian 😏

heehee… phunny… in my head anyways…

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/18 "2002-12-17T19:11:12Z")

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I consider myself Christian, but I also have some parts of it which I don’t believe in. I don’t believe that God covered the earth in water, because where did the water come from and go? Plus when the water went back down, all the trees and everything would be dead. Herbivores can’t live w/o plants.

How did Moses spread the sea? Is it metaphorical or what? I don’t understand why God was willing to do all that magical stuff back then but hasn’t done anything like that in the past 2000 years when there was a real way to record it down and prove it.

I’m not going to go into great detail, but I don’t believe in a lot of the stuff in the Old Testament because some of it is so old that I don’t know who wrote about it. Like who wrote about Adam and Eve? How did they find out about it?

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/19 "2002-12-17T19:22:36Z")

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Did Adam & Eve have belly buttons? If yes, why?

When Adam & Eve were expelled from the garden, they met other people… who were they?

Adam & Eve had 2 children, Cane & Able. How did they propogate the species? The sons had to be doin Mom… So incest is okay at one time…

These are just a few questions that keep me from getting into any religeon I have found…

I believe Organized Religeon, and Organized Crime are not that far apart… Both have a main purpose of controlling people.

JMHO

Rev ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/views-on-christianity/9726/20 "2002-12-17T19:25:32Z")

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I’m with Revv on this, obvious questions, no answers…

We’re all inbred if the story about A&E checks out ok 😛

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