# What´s so great about a .pdf file.....?!?!

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**Created:** [August 21, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800 "2004-08-21T23:19:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/21 "2004-08-22T02:35:40Z")

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I don’t like it either. Loads waayyy too slowly, and laggs badly.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/22 "2004-08-22T02:57:42Z")

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Where can you get Flashpaper DDD? ([Macromedia.com](http://Macromedia.com)?)

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/23 "2004-08-22T03:11:33Z")

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yeah MM,

_brainfart_

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/24 "2004-08-22T03:14:58Z")

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you mean that reader loads my fonts, plugins and everything?

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/25 "2004-08-22T03:16:13Z")

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Oh, you have to pay, eh? EH??? Well nvm then lol.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/26 "2004-08-22T03:42:43Z")

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i have used photoshop like 2 times:P maybe 3 only to test some brushes but that was becuzz my friend gave them to me:) but ya my life is based on fireworks! (offtopic: also php)

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/27 "2004-08-22T03:46:14Z")

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With the exception of the loading times of the reader, I have nothing against PDF. Like I mentioned earlier, I send most of my school-related work via PDF because that pretty much guarantees that the person on the other end sees what I am seeing.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/28 "2004-08-22T03:51:21Z")

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the best and most sold feature of pdf format is it’s security of unedittable documents. If you have an important document to send, liek a contract or invoice, that you don’t want any chance of anything being changed against you, you send a pdf. I use them all the time for every document we have. It’s the standard for electronic documents becuase of what kirupa just stated about being compatible, but most of all because it is a secure way to send that info.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/29 "2004-08-22T03:55:03Z")

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yep, pdf and adobe distiller for print is still the norm.

but i have to admit i’ve never use flashpaper…

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/30 "2004-08-22T03:57:57Z")

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> [@DDD](#):
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> I have been using flash paper lately. Very very awesome. But pdf’s are esential for print. At least for me.

im interested… never used flash paper… any insight for us. Whats its best feature, and what do you use it mostly for.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/31 "2004-08-22T04:32:13Z")

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Wow, best thread in a while. I had always wondered the same thing, but never thought to ask (and was afraid you would all jsut call me a n00b for not knowing why pdf’s are always used). And it seems most people hate them… and then suddenly the tone changed… huh. I still dislike them, for the load time that was mentioned. When I accidently open a pdf from web I get so upset, I jsut want to close everything and start over, cause it takes forever and sometimes crashes me up.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/32 "2004-08-22T07:01:47Z")

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well, I think I´ll give it a shot and make my desicion if it´s useful or not, the security reason its a plus definitely…

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/33 "2004-08-22T07:24:09Z")

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I like PDFs because:

- there’s a free reader available on Windows, Mac and Linux
- You can use fonts that are not available on the recipients machine
- When the recipient prints them, they look like you intended
- They’re fairly compact
- They’re (almost) read-only

I use them to send out invoices electronically.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/34 "2004-08-22T08:06:06Z")

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The Acrobat (not reader, editor) browser plug-in is great, any webpage I want to keep, hit one button & “save to pdf”. One file, everything in there. In long documents, you get page navigation with preview on the left, you can embed flash, images and even fonts so any platform, no matter what fonts installed, will be able to view (free reader) the file just as you designed it. The text in pdf’s is searchable (big plus!), just look at google results: some link to stuff INSIDE a pdf! The content i secure, can be anotaded, Acrobat also plugs itself into Word, so ease of use, one-click conversion…  
If you still need more, browse these:  
[http://www.pdfzone.com/](http://www.pdfzone.com/)  
[http://www.planetpdf.com/](http://www.planetpdf.com/)  
[http://www.interaktonline.com/products/PDFreports/](http://www.interaktonline.com/products/PDFreports/)

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 8:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/35 "2004-08-22T08:41:50Z")

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I think PDFs are great! I see many of you are not into print design which really why you cannot see the benifits of PDFs.

Since my company does alot of graphic print work, it really helps using them when we send our files to the printers. It makes the process faster and pdfs are pretty much going to be standard when sending your work to the printing presses. We usually make them with quark or indesign.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 10:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/36 "2004-08-22T10:46:24Z")

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Hm… I think the adobe reader is very poor indeed… I have nothing against the format, but the [gpdf](http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~mk793652/gpdf/) viewer loads in an instant on my linux machine, while the adobe reader takes about 5 secs under windows :-/

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/37 "2004-08-22T11:19:53Z")

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> [@Hans Kilian](#):
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> I like PDFs because:
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> - there’s a free reader available on Windows, Mac and Linux
> - You can use fonts that are not available on the recipients machine
> - When the recipient prints them, they look like you intended
> - They’re fairly compact
> - They’re (almost) read-only
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> I use them to send out invoices electronically.

read-only Make’s It harder to steal content… You have to type it over.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/38 "2004-08-22T11:41:50Z")

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> [@Hans Kilian](#):
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> I like PDFs because:
> 
> - there’s a free reader available on Windows, Mac and Linux
> - You can use fonts that are not available on the recipients machine
> - When the recipient prints them, they look like you intended
> - They’re fairly compact
> - They’re (almost) read-only
> 
> I use them to send out invoices electronically.

What he said ^^  
It’s great for invoices =)

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/39 "2004-08-22T12:51:20Z")

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conclusion:  
most people hate it but still most people use it.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2004, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/what-s-so-great-about-a-pdf-file/61800/40 "2004-08-22T13:06:59Z")

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(I’d say that most people that uses it (and that finds pdf useful) haven’t posted here… They are most likely in the print business, and are not spending their time on kirupaForum as we do :P)

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