# Why does Kirupa's menu use Flash? **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [November 16, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621 "2003-11-16T01:47:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mlkedave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mlkedave](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/mlkedave)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/1 "2003-11-16T01:47:47Z")
I was just thinking, the Kirupa banner (menu) uses flash and I see absolutly no point why. If you are going to use flash at least put some effects or something I mean god u can do that in html just as easily and save us some load time šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/2 "2003-11-16T01:51:04Z")
how tactfully putā€¦ so let me get this straightā€¦ You are posting on one of the most friendly forums dedicated to Flash, and that is what you choose to focus upon? Thanks for the input, Iā€™ll pass it along. Iā€™m gonna make sure to ask you to write my next SOTW critique. I can see you have a way with words Rev ![](http://aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/3 "2003-11-16T01:53:15Z")
The header and the footer combined only adds up to 10kb so what load time are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/4 "2003-11-16T02:04:51Z")
must have dialup and a 32kbps modem rotflmao ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/5 "2003-11-16T02:06:25Z")
I have made the header before in Flash and it is tiny, and this way you may change it all every page with one ftp edit, you could use an iframe but hey, were Flash people, we are going to use it. Minority Report Quote Edited: ā€œThe Kirupa is perfect, it has no errorsā€ šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/6 "2003-11-16T02:09:14Z")
Grim: I have dial-up 24 kbps and it is fast. I almost got the slowest connection award once because I used to have 5 kbps a sec, but this dude beat me close where I live, be got 3 kbps. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/7 "2003-11-16T02:38:36Z")
I didnā€™t mean to offend u guys. I just wanted to know why kirupa used flashed for the header and footer. I just didnā€™t seen the pimp. Thanks you datapimp for not getting pissed and explained it to me. I guesss ur supposed to be reaallllyyy gentil on this site. Sorry ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/8 "2003-11-16T02:59:42Z")
Itā€™s a valid questionā€¦The reason I made it in Flash is, at that time, I wanted people to be able to create newer and better styles. If you look in your user options, you will find that there are numerous styles for you to choose from. From a logistical point of view, keeping the header and footer in Flash would make it easier for me to update. There would be no need for me to mess with HTML and wonder why certain browsers couldnā€™t display the text at that size or whether the slanted edge in the blue style will reproduce correctly in older browsers. Keeping it Flash also made it _hopefully_ easier for all the people who created styles to modify and edit easily. It is a lot easier to change the font color, backgrounds, etc. in a Flash banner than it is for a HTML/CSS combination - which more than likely many people here may not know! Hope that answered your question šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/9 "2003-11-16T03:12:24Z")
> \*Originally posted by mlkedave \* > \*\*I guesss ur supposed to be reaallllyyy gentil on this site. Sorry \*\* re read your first post, as if you donā€™t know who you are, and what tone of voice you are usingā€¦ ā€¦then you can see why you got flamed a bitā€¦ no harm tho, right? Rev ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/10 "2003-11-16T03:19:20Z")
Ya knowā€¦ I do have problems loading the header and footer on my friendā€™s mac thoughā€¦ And he has a good cable connection? _lol_ā€¦ Just thoguht Iā€™d bring this up in hereā€¦ Mac OS9ā€¦ if that helpsā€¦ Flash Components installed and everything. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/11 "2003-11-16T03:21:41Z")
hmmm i will check that out as well on my ibook mac os 9.2 and psot the comments tomorow since i dont wanna get that piece o junk out of my cars trunk now its raining lol ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/12 "2003-11-16T03:41:08Z")
What version of the Flash player does your friend have installed playa? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/13 "2003-11-16T03:46:10Z")
Flash Player 7 as far as I rememberā€¦ And if not that.\> then itā€™s definetly 6ā€¦ because I installed that in there myself. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/14 "2003-11-16T05:59:06Z")
yeah same, used a mac computer at work with os9 and flash 7, there is something about flash and its memory usage that makes it run so slow, i too had slow load up times for the main page, but from then i started just jumping into the forums ([www.kirupaforums.com](http://www.kirupaforums.com)) straight away instead of going through via the home page. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/15 "2003-11-16T07:40:27Z")
Yeahā€¦ I know what you mean soulā€¦ Do you have any problems with seeing that go button on the main page stretching? it seems to want to streettccchh for meā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/16 "2003-11-16T07:56:17Z")
cold all clared and dont hurt me. are i well sick:toad: on u ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/17 "2003-11-16T07:57:58Z")
Ummā€¦ Why are you posting this here? I donā€™t know Ultrashockā€¦ And right nowā€¦ I donā€™t really care for itā€¦ The fact that Kirupa has made me an only member, meaning that I donā€™t NEED to go out and look at other boards, should prove that this is the number 1 site. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/why-does-kirupas-menu-use-flash/35621/18 "2003-11-16T13:15:50Z")
i got yer back there budd lets smash this little mario guy :evil: lmao