# WIP - a plant **URL:** \ **Category:** design\ **Created:** [September 8, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621 "2004-09-08T13:39:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eilsoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9fc348/32.png) [@eilsoe](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/eilsoe)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/1 "2004-09-08T13:39:16Z")
hey all! I’ve decided to try and model a plant, and I wanted to incorporate some SSS into it as well, since I still don’t know how it works… :sure: anyway, I’ve looked a little into it, and I’ve come up with this first test-render of a simple leaf-model with SSS (or in vray: Absorption). this is only meant to be a test of how the light comes through the model, so the quality of the SSS is low. More pic’s will come as I model more 🙂 Render 1: Subsurface Scattering: ![](http://www.avalon-rev.dk/junk/SSS1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/2 "2004-09-08T15:15:33Z")
hey eilso looks cool. have you used th OGO Hikari stuff for it or Worley’s ??? Looks cool; although I doubt plants are this translucent… I’ll be waiting for more renders =) (oh and can you post the rendertimes ???) cheers, mlk ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/3 "2004-09-08T17:23:32Z")
mmmmm…Worley…Fprime :drool:. Good work eilsoe. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/4 "2004-09-08T18:40:21Z")
Wth is Worleys…? mlk: No, they’re not translucent, but SSS is not about that either, it’s about simulating light through solids. Like wax. I’m sure if you hold up a light behind a leaf, some light will pass through and scatter around inside the leaf itself, like above. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/5 "2004-09-08T19:35:04Z")
Actually I dont think Worley makes anything for other packages I believe Steve is all LW. But I could be wrong. Brazil does these types of effects right nicely, but I like your example eilsoe. But this is his site [http://www.worley.com/products.html#topproducts](http://www.worley.com/products.html#topproducts) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/6 "2004-09-08T19:44:43Z")
like the effect… the light comes thru quite nicely… so my question is what is sss and what is it’s lightwave equivolent…? gp ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/7 "2004-09-08T19:48:00Z")
ouh… I see. So it’s a series of plugins for LW then… I like it’s SSS plug. 🙂 if you’re interested, you can see ray’s SSS in action here: > **[Photoshop Plugins, Stock Footage & Creative Software.](http://richardrosenman.com/)** > > Richard Rosenman Advertising & Design develops professional Photoshop plugins and creative software for 3D artists, designers and photographers. just go to Gallery -\> Vray and scroll down to about the middle… that guy is gooood… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/8 "2004-09-08T19:50:03Z")
very cool, i like the shadows ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/9 "2004-09-08T19:52:37Z")
yeh I have to add some more veins to that leaf :sure: I thought it was good… but in defense, I’ve never made leaves before 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/10 "2004-09-08T22:14:45Z")
> [@Eilsoe](#): > > Wth is Worleys…? > > mlk: No, they’re not translucent, but SSS is not about that either, it’s about simulating light through solids. Like wax. > I’m sure if you hold up a light behind a leaf, some light will pass through and scatter around inside the leaf itself, like above. 🙂 SSS is a way to fake translucent materials (like wax…) I tried placing a leaf in front of a light source and (well it was a fully grown up plant)… it wasn’t translucent at all. Younger leaves are translucent but not anywhere near as much… quoting from richardroseman’s site: > Absorption is used for simulating translucency. Unlike Sub-Surface Light Scattering (SSS, 3S), the light is absorbed within the subject instead of bouncing about and contributing to internal illumination. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/11 "2004-09-08T22:46:17Z")
> [@Eilsoe](#): > > ouh… I see. So it’s a series of plugins for LW then… I like it’s SSS plug. 🙂 > > if you’re interested, you can see ray’s SSS in action here: > > [http://www.richardrosenman.com/](http://www.richardrosenman.com/) > > just go to Gallery -\> Vray and scroll down to about the middle… that guy is gooood… nice link… good site… yeah he has some skills…really talented, I think I may have seen some of this images before can;t place it tho cause I surfs a bit, but never the less he’s got some awseome images… ok so now I get sss, you learn something new daily…, but that’s why I hang out here with you all… :tb: gp ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/12 "2004-09-08T22:48:47Z")
he’s pretty active on cgtalk, and his plumber video is a big hit apparently… I really want to see it once it’s released ! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/13 "2004-09-09T00:36:04Z")
ooh… fancy! Something new for me too. This is different from Max’s Translucent shader no? What sort of timeframe are you getting for your renders? I’d love to see a comparison between the translucent shader and SSS. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/wip-a-plant/63621/14 "2004-09-09T06:37:14Z")
mlk: Sorry, I thought you were talking about translucency as simple opacity 🙂 Ironi: This one above took between 10-15 minutes to render. However, it IS a simple model 🙂 Richard R has some more complex models on his site, dunno how long that will take to render. VRay is still a fast renderengine tho…