I am creating a logo for a band named, <i>Down, Not Out</i> …
Is this too cheesey, any spontaneous ideas I can steal? j/k :beam:
remember, this will be on CD’s, flyers, Business Cards, etc…
well it would really help if we knew what can of company is it. I personally don’t like that font, but it might just go with the company’s theme 
Besides, it’s kind of too simple. I know simple is good, but this one is soo simple. Try to be more innovative 
hope my critism helps :beam:
ahmed:
thanks for replying…
I am creating a logo for a band named, Down, Not Out …
Is this too cheesey, any spontaneous ideas I can steal? j/k
remember, this will be on CD’s, flyers, Business Cards, etc…
it is a band… and logo’s should be simple, so they are easy to reproduce, and remember… IMO…
so, given the band’s name : Down, Not Out … what would you do?
Rev
oh… oh… sorry… i read that as ‘creating a logo for a brand name’ :beam:
I’m not sure what would I really, but i think it can be a bit more creative
thanks ahmed…
that is why I have posted it here… hence the “too cheesey?” question…
This logo is oversized on purpose as well. It needs to scale down and up easily, and be extremely recognizable…
Trying to figure out another way to graphically protraying <b>Down</b> …
Rev
yeah… actually i did try scaling down and it kind of looked better…
here’s just another idea to portray ‘down’… not creative but you can modifiy and probably come up with something 
yeah, I had messed around with that kinda thang too…
I’ll come up with something… I haven’t shown this to the client yet…
I might try something with the initials DNO…
Rev
*Originally posted by reverendflash *
I might try something with the initials DNO…
That would be cool! I think that will give more flexibility
I think so, I just don’t know how the client is going to like an anogram for a logo…
could be touch and go…
Rev
i think it’s much too spread out, takes up too much space, and i don’t think it’d be a very good multipurpose logo (cards, cd’s etc) because of that.
what i’m trying to say is that i think the logo would be hard to incorporate into the band’s marketing in the future.
As I said above, this logo is oversized on purpose. The final will be scaled down drastically for use on business cards. This is the way a graphic artist designs artwork by hand, then scales down the entire image to work on whatever the client needs (used to be via photography and contact cement).
Think of this as a stencil on equipment cases… It needs to be simple, and clear… Think of “The artist formerly known as Prince”, or The Grateful Dead, or any other band who’s logo you would recognize 100 yds away…
if I eliminate space between the symbols, it will look too cramped when small enough for business cards…
Rev
k rev,
no offense, but i think you can’t handle constructive criticism. ahmed and i were simply trying to state our opinions about your work.
you seem to be covertly vindictive towards anyone who tries to offer any design advice to you. you’re telling me how a graphic artist works? thanks…
grateful dead? prince? both one-part logos that are easily incorporated into any design schematic… i wouldn’t compare your logo to theirs. yes, i’d recognize these two logos anywhere, but to be honest, yours is one i’d easily forget.
Well its a start, and a smart concept, but i think its too graphical, two seperate images. Arrow and down and then out with the cross graphic. Try to play around with this idea make it one image.
Why dont you use the o in down to make out
d
out
w
n
colour the o and out in the same colour while having d , w, n in a different colour.
*Originally posted by liam *
i think it’s much too spread out, takes up too much space, and i don’t think it’d be a very good multipurpose logo (cards, cd’s etc) because of that.
what i’m trying to say is that i think the logo would be hard to incorporate into the band’s marketing in the future.
Liam:
sorry if I sounded defensive. Your comment of being too spread out made little sense to me, other than the fact that the logo is purposely oversized for design reasons. The reason for telling you how graphic artists do this by hand, is because it is the way it has been done for 100 years, until the computer, and I wanted to make sure you understood why the logo is the size it is. I don’t know you, or your work, so quick simple retorts usually don’t sit well with me from people I don’t know. If I am wrong, please let me know how many logo’s you have designed, and where to see them on the web, I will appologize publically.
grateful dead? prince? both one-part logos that are easily incorporated into any design schematic… i wouldn’t compare your logo to theirs. yes, i’d recognize these two logos anywhere, but to be honest, yours is one i’d easily forget.
this last part was just rude. I did not make this personal, why did you go here?
I can take constructive criticism as long as the people who write it actually read the thread, and then give constructive criticism based on actual design experience, not just a reason to bag on someone, which happens here way too much.
Rev
*Originally posted by Soulty *
**Why dont you use the o in down to make out
d
out
w
n
colour the o and out in the same colour while having d , w, n in a different colour. **
thanks!
hadn’t thought about doing it that way… I’ll have to give it a shot. I’ll let you know what I end up with…
Rev
I was bored so I took your original concept and sort of combined it. I made this real quick so it’s not too great, but hopefully it will give you some ideas, enjoy. =)
Thanks EG…
I will have to play with the arrangement a bit… That is kinda what I had in my head…
Rev
rev -
i said the logo was spread out, not oversized. there’s a difference there. i had read the previous posts and wasn’t just stating something that had already been said.
i know how graphic artists work, today and in the past, the reason i said
you’re telling me how a graphic artist works? thanks…
and
i wouldn’t compare your logo to theirs. yes, i’d recognize these two logos anywhere, but to be honest, yours is one i’d easily forget.
is because i felt like i was being insulted by you since my views didn’t matter or that you feel you have more/better design experience since you don’t know me or are a mod on this forum or whatever.
I don’t know you, or your work, so quick simple retorts usually don’t sit well with me from people I don’t know.
rev, my first post wasn’t a retort. i was just trying to give my opinion.
I can take constructive criticism as long as the people who write it actually read the thread, and then give constructive criticism based on actual design experience, not just a reason to bag on someone, which happens here way too much.
i read the thread. i know that you took “spread out” to mean “oversized” and i’m sorry if it sounded like that, that’s not what i meant.
i’m not “bagging” on you, i felt insulted by the way you respond to criticism, on this or any of the other threads you have posted regarding a site/logo check. maybe i just don’t know you, but like i said before, i see a lot of hidden retorts and get the feeling that you’re being vindictive in your responses. so, i responded accordingly in my second post.
i interpret the last part of that quote to be a shot at my level of design knowledge, and it obviously is. here are a few of the logos i’ve designed:
the one on my homepage: http://www.vmkdsn.com
on my font viewer for clients: 海安笔试装饰设计工程有限公司 (click the logo to expand site)
logo for the firm design, a client of mine: 海安笔试装饰设计工程有限公司
logo for my dad’s festival, jazz city (made logo, not site): http://www.jazzcity.ca
the one i made for paul kane high’s grad site: 海安笔试装饰设计工程有限公司
the saints: 海安笔试装饰设计工程有限公司 (explore the site to see it in action)
i know it sounded bad, but when i said that yours is one i’d soon forget, i simply meant that it’s not too eye-catching, it doesn’t stick in your head. i’m sorry, that’s just my opinion.
i’m not trying to start a flame war with you, i respect you as a designer, i just didn’t like how you responded to my criticism, which is the whole reason you posted it on this forum.
No need for all this.
Anyway, i have some ideas that may help you, or may not :bounce:
Firstly, down not out is the band name. It doesn’t have to be their logo too
What i am saying is that the words “down not out” do not have to feature at all in the logo, as words usually mess up the simplicity of design [ask me…i am creating a text heavy flash site :trout: ]
Maybe some abstract form? Maybe a sillouette of a boxer getting up after a knockdown?
The possibilites are endless
You are talented i am sure you will make something great. I personally do not like the logo, because the text gets in the way. But i am sure if you pull out enough hair, you will end up with something great 
I will once again stress on not using ANY text unless it’s simply DNO
