yep the metric system, something that some unimportant unamerican freaks around the world use 
but even if you count them in miles² and I count them in kilometers², you would have less (people/unit).
*Originally posted by BlueLine *
**don’t listen to c!ryx, he’s german. **
I had to chuckle when I read that.
That’s another thing, I really don’t like (you could almost call it hate) how the US persists on not using the metric system. Almost as if we’re deserving of our own system :sure:
I find it interesting that when faced with this issue the best anyone can say is something like
‘well we have more people’
or
’we sell more guns’
I find it odd the way you flipantly pass it off as part of life, we are talking about the murder of human beings not some irrelevent consumer issue.
@ave: simplification is in people’s nature
I don’t say: prohibit weapons and you have got a peaceful society,
but indeed I guess the reason that there are such cruel murders is that the wrong people have weapons for that. How is it possible that someon in civil got a sniper gun??? What should be the reason he got one for private use???
Also what ‘hunter’ needs a semi or fully automatic assault rifle ??
what animal requires that amount of killing ??
quote ave:
I find it interesting that when faced with this issue the best anyone can say is something like
‘well we have more people’
or
’we sell more guns’
I find it odd the way you flipantly pass it off as part of life, we are talking about the murder of human beings not some irrelevent consumer issue.
Death is a part of life, murder has been happening since the dawn of time. BTW you didn’t offer any thoughts on the subject. All i got from your post was-- ave thinks its interesting and odd how people pass off murder. hmmmm thats deep.
*Originally posted by Phil Jayhan *
**cryx-
I’ll tell you something, you better watch your remarks pal. Or I might turn you loose and send you to another phorum. You know what else is Americas phault, as well as my own?
The poor pot bellied phly in the eye child, with an empty rice bowl and a torn pink dress; And the homeless in Burma? Our phault.
The lack of resources in the world, obviously our phault, right? How could it be anyone elses?
We have some sick pshyco picking people off on a highway, we don’t even know who it is, or phor why they are doing it, BUT YOU KNOW???
Perhaps you should call the **[SIZE=3][COLOR=red]fricking[/COLOR][/SIZE] ** FBI and phil them in on the motive.
All the starving children tongiht that will take their last breaths and die of malnutrition, our phault as well.
Your entitled to your phree speech and Im entitled to use the bann button whenever I see someone who just doesn’t seem to phit in here. I hope you get my drift… :bad:
pj **
phil, you missed a PH. ** fricking**
*Originally posted by bergy *
**hahaha what’s that? you mean square mile? ROFL **
*Originally posted by McGiver *
**but even if you count them in miles² and I count them in kilometers², you would have less (people/unit).**
I understood what you were saying the first time; but i really don’t think that it matters how many people/square WHATEVER. If someone is a murderer they are one, whether they live in Europe or America, whether they live next to 30 people or 3,000.
sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
- A cutting, often ironic remark.
- A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3.The use of sarcasm.
See Synonyms “wit”.
sarcasm
A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest.
The sarcasms of those critics who imagine our art to be a matter of inspiration. --Sir J. Reynolds.
Syn: Satire; irony; ridicule; taunt; gibe.
well I thought you wanted to express that 
you forgot the sarcasm tags
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[S] But good that you explained the meaning of the word sarcsm to me, I wouldn’t have known it if you didn’t[/S]
How many threads are we turning sour as of recently…?
Man… A whole lot of hostility… Here you go… For everyone that wants some honest opinions and some factual information on everything… 
The only reason we get dubbed as a highly cruel and “violent” nation is because we medialize everything. You don’t here about the killings of South Africa do you? Or how about Brazil?! Nope… Because they aren’t a heavily mediatized nation. They don’t have millions of nbews trucks and millions of nosey assed reporters going around capturing everything on camera and giving everyone the story…
I foremost blame the media for the reasoning on at least 80% of America’s depression. There are very few times that you can watch the news and actually shed a smile on your face or even laugh. You typically get to see how sucky everything is doing… And it’s very true about human nature. You go to work and do a great job, you’ll get a pat on the back and a congratulations but the moment you screw up… Your deemed the biggest loser in the world and are now crapped back to the begining.
Theoretically, nobody from Europe can even remotely remark upon an American for being the way we he / she is because we derived from Europe to begin with… And from what I remember, we were escaping a tyranny begun by the king and the church of the time being.
As for guns, I’ve always questioned what the crime would be like if we didn’t have guns. But ask this question… How many nations out there would even want to try and invade America?! I can almost guarantee to you that no nation out there is stupid enough to invade America by land. Because every one of us will be standing there holding guns. Men and Women both, defending our country and not running away. Yeah, there are some loonies out there who shouldn’t be holding a gun in the first place, but it is not for us to decide on limiting the life of a person as none of us are any superior than any other human in this world.
We are all bound by the things that make us the worst animals upon this earth. Greed, seduction and power feed our minds as an antelope would feed a lion’s stomach. No single nation is better than any oher nation because it is still run by these rules and as long as a human being runs that nation, that nation will be run with the same greed, rage, seduction and power that the human feels.
Little do we talk about love or friendship anymore and more and more and day by day we are succoming to nothing but hate and hatred. When was the last time you told someone that they looked beautiful or have given your friend a hug and thanked him for something? When was the last time you spent time to just relax and stare at something nice, like the stars? or the last time you told someone close to you how you feel?
I blame our own nature as a human being for the cause of all our problems, but alas… No human can change and be totally perfect… So therefore we will always have fighting and killing…
And oh… Another one of our beloved traits as human beings… Also somewhat found in the animal kingdom as well…
Competition…
Think about it.
nothing sour in here.
i would say every thead containing dangerous themes ends here.
well if there would be anyone defending the government of south africa, I would criticize him/her too. But I still think, things like this should be much easier for a government in the USA than in lets say Argentinia.
I am also criticizing some aspects of the german government, but there are just a lot more mistakes made by bush&co at the moment.
[qoute]No human can change and be totally perfect[/quote]
at least you can try to
*Originally posted by odedvard *
**quote ave:
I find it interesting that when faced with this issue the best anyone can say is something like
‘well we have more people’
or
‘we sell more guns’
I find it odd the way you flipantly pass it off as part of life, we are talking about the murder of human beings not some irrelevent consumer issue.
Death is a part of life, murder has been happening since the dawn of time. BTW you didn’t offer any thoughts on the subject. All i got from your post was-- ave thinks its interesting and odd how people pass off murder. hmmmm thats deep. **
Then you obviously havent read all my posts then have you.
HA so murder been happening forever therefor its OK then right :sure:
I suppose rape and child molestation are ok to , after all they have been happenning since the dawn of time i dont see what the fuss is about really now you put it like that :thumb:
You don’t here about the killings of South Africa do you? Or how about Brazil?! Nope… Because they aren’t a heavily mediatized nation
er yes we do ? and also i believe it was noted many times that i personally (and others to i guess) was talking about western democratic governments…i am fully aware there are many many more violent places on earth
Playa - your avatar pic looks beautiful :love:
( see…no hate here 
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kirupa is destroying our hate thread
please oh wise mcgiver, one who knows all about america, tell me why it is bush’s fault. I’ve searched all over google and every site i find says there were murders before bush came to office. Maybe I’m just using the wrong engine, but please enlighten me.
I still fail to see how people from a country that has killed hundreds of millions of people over the last century through either the Holocaust or starting a world war can criticize another government for having a higher murder rate.
I don’t know much about Germany, bu how many people of different race and religion do you know? I can’t help but remember during the beginning of the war in iraq how they were showing on the news how there are basically 2 groups of people in Iraq, the kurds and shi’ites. Both are muslim, but they kill each other by the hundreds of thousands because one believes that the descendants of Muhammad (or maybe it was someone else, I forget, someone correct me here) should be in charge of the Islam faith and the others don’t. 2 groups that believe in the same religion, just different denominations and they kill each other. America has people of EVERY religion, race, belief, and heritage on the planet. It’s hard to get people that differ so much to live together and not have some murders. Then if you factor in the drug shootings we have (our government can’t do much more to stop drugs than sticking a cop on every corner and having a shoot to kill first and ask questions later policy). Then you’ve got to factor in our border. We’ve got a fairly large border with Canada and Mexico, and it’d be hard to keep illegal guns from coming in over that. We can’t keep drugs and people out, what makes you think we could keep guns out? I’d much rather have it how it is now where people who want to use guns for hunting and defense can have them, while all the crazies do, than have it so all the crazies still have guns, but no one who wants them for defense or hunting can have them.
*Originally posted by kirupa *
**Playa - your avatar pic looks beautiful :love:
( see…no hate here 
) **
:love: Leave it to Kirupa to tossle my toggins. :drool: Your unibro is teh uber shexi kirupa… 
:love:
And I’m telling you guys… America is no better than any other nation but it s no worse. I’d say we are at par with every other nation. We may have killed alot of people, but so have alot of your countries as well. Let’s just end the discussion here about this… and :love: one another… 
didn’t that this is explicit bush’s fault, but bush didn’t do anything working against that.
By the way: I KILLED NOBODY! THE NAZIS WERE TERRIBLE, BUT I AM NOT ONE OF THEM! you got it?
you would have any right to criticize me if I would elect nazis, but I don’t!
how many people with different race or religion I know? I have jewish friends, I have black friends, I have frient that came from vietnam named Jack, I have a lot of russian friends, I had a girlfriend from the philipines once, I know people from turky, and even one from Iraq!
We have a close border to russia, and eastern countries, and we even got open boarders. There are russian mafia, and things like that.
We have also groups of people that want to kill each other, but it’s a lot harder in germany to get a gun than in america (as far as I know)
We united with eastern germany, which brought a lot of debts to the united germany (the ddr was almost bankrupt)
You really can not say we would have no problems over here.
But I don’t think bombing those who are against you is the right way, and I don’t think that giving away guns as if they were toy is also not the right way.
America is no better than any other nation but it s no worse
that’s what I am trying to say. Americans are not better than anyone in the world (they are not worse too)
you didn’t do anything to become american, and I didn’t do anything to become german.
But the behavior of the government, and some american people is wrong
as can be said for anywhere almost…
Rev
in response to BlueLine
Both are muslim, but they kill each other by the hundreds of thousands because one believes that the descendants of Muhammad (or maybe it was someone else, I forget, someone correct me here) should be in charge of the Islam faith and the others don’t. 2 groups that believe in the same religion, just different denominations and they kill each other.
err ok i fear you are forgetting the intense poverty and fact that for the last 400 years nearly the west has crapped all over the whole region, as well as many other factors also as i believe was mentioned many times it is pointless to compare a democratic western nation with a 3rd world country or dictatorship.
Then if you factor in the drug shootings we have (our government can’t do much more to stop drugs than sticking a cop on every corner and having a shoot to kill first and ask questions later policy). Then you’ve got to factor in our border. We’ve got a fairly large border with Canada and Mexico, and it’d be hard to keep illegal guns from coming in over that.
perhaps if the CIA stopped dealing drugs with the south american cartels it would help huh… and perhaps if the UK forces in afghanistan charged with reducing poppy growth had done their job rather than doubling the yield that might help to.
in response to MARZ
Theoretically, nobody from Europe can even remotely remark upon an American for being the way we he / she is because we derived from Europe to begin with… And from what I remember, we were escaping a tyranny begun by the king and the church of the time being.
As for guns, I’ve always questioned what the crime would be like if we didn’t have guns. But ask this question… How many nations out there would even want to try and invade America?! I can almost guarantee to you that no nation out there is stupid enough to invade America by land. Because every one of us will be standing there holding guns. Men and Women both, defending our country and not running away. Yeah, there are some loonies out there who shouldn’t be holding a gun in the first place, but it is not for us to decide on limiting the life of a person as none of us are any superior than any other human in this world…
This is exactly the rhetoric which makes you different to other countries in the west…your love for yourselves and inability to see ANY wrong in your country is scary…seriously
And Guns provide power and security as history shows right :sure:
Check the history books man nothing is forever…and when the s**t hits the fan in the US, which one day it inevetably will thats gonna be one dangerous and very bloody revolution.
And as for not limiting freedoms then u must be ok with allowing…
bestiality, incest, child sex, legal hard drugs, etc etc