Freedom fries

I just felt like saying something on the topic of “freedom fries” and it’s this…

… yeah, that’s mature…

Congressmen have shown that they can act like little 4th graders… geez. They’re acting petty and immature.

Lets talk a little bit about patriotism. Whoever said that it was a good thing?

This is the definition of Patriotism according to webster’s:

Patriotism - Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one’s country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one’s country.

yeah… loving your country, blah blah blah. I’m sick of it. I’m sick of hearing people (especially republicans) blasting war critics for being unpatriotic. “This is a time to come together” they say.

Patriotism is a blind, biased stance in support for your country. It means that one can be patriotic even if the US decides to nuke the crap out of France, for example. And this is BAD. Patriotic propaganda discourages people from informing themselves, and tells them to support a war, “just because they love their country.” I wish ONE congressman or senator would encourage people to be informed instead.

Another argument I hear is that we should support the war because “our boys are risking their lives.” I’m sorry, but I didn’t send them, I don’t want them to risk their lives, and I didn’t vote for the guy who put them there. People who say this are expecting me to forget all about the fact that there’s no conclusive evidence backing this war, and to support the war because our soilders are there. I don’t buy that. Sorry.

Sen. Tom Daschle recently critizised Bush’s complete failure at diplomacy. Immediately he was blasted by Republicans, and he was called “unpatriotic.” Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said, “Our men and women literally are in a countdown before fighting is initiated, and any remarks that their lives in some way have been compromised by the president of the United States is irresponsible.” No it’s not. It’s not irresponsible, it’s not unpatriotic, it’s not Anti-American. It’s something that needs to be pointed out, so that we don’t do something BAD because we’re blinded by patriotism. Disagreeing with the President is irresponsible? Please…

I want them desperately to say: “look, we don’t have concrete evidence, but Saddam is a bad guy, and he needs to go. This is something that needs to happen” I think I’d be ok with that. I wish they would say, “Please, read all about the conflict, read about the reasons WHY France is opposing the war so much, read about what Saddam has done to his people, and then tell us whether you support the war or not.” Because I know as well that many peace advocates don’t know crapola about what’s going on.

I think if we had an informed public, we’d support the war, but we’d be blasting away at Bush, and we would take him and his hawkish cabinet out of power. Polls would show that Saddam has to go, but would also show that Bush’s is incredibly BAD for our foreign policy.

Please, make sure you’re not blinded by childish patriotism when you ask for your Freedom Fries… Read all about this war (I still don’t know everything about it…) And don’t act like congressmen… er… 4 year olds.

bravo!

very good prespective Phil… Very true.

Hey Tuknuk…

Have you seen Nanuq 'round the igloo lately? He usually heads South once winter sets in, but we haven’t seen him yet…

Next time you go seal hunting ask Nimitka if she has knows anything…

Thanks,

Rev

I’m not sure if Nanuq still has Keiko or not… He was getting pretty old, kept blowing his snot all over the igloo, penguin parts strewn everywhere… not that Nanuq’s place ever smelled like a spring forrest, but with Keiko around…

Tuknuk?

Rev

*Originally posted by Phil Jayhan *
…If America is going to go to war after war until all the regimes that have weapons of mass destruction are gone, my question remains; What about America’s Weapons of Mass Destruction?..

phil, US isn´t in this war to save the world from weapons of mass destruction… that´s a lie that even an educated inteligent american like you got fooled by it.

US is alied, i mean ALIED, with other countries that are known to have terrorists connections like: Saudi Arabia, Paquistan and Turkey. and they´re are publicly developing nukes (that if they don´t have it already).

And there are other countries that have weapons of mass destruction, like North Corea, and that are bigger treats to US or the world, and US does nothing about…

Iraqui has done nothing worst than what US did since the mid 90´s (curd persecution or Kwait invasion before). All the weapons that iraqui have is nothing compared to what US have.

US only started this war coz iraqui doesn´t bow to washington´s will. period.

Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." — Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II

what happened to Tuknuk now?

maybe he fell off the ice while fishing…

hope a polar bear didn’t get him…

Rev

hangs coat on ice hook

Hey guys, sorry I took so long, I was out catching my supper.

Nanuq left days ago but because of all the snow we have here he is probably just getting to the border now - good luck getting through after 8pm tonight!

And for the record - his place reeeeeeeeeeeked! That d@mn whale would blow his snot everywhere and Nanuq finally got fed up and speard that sonofagun. We ate like kings for a month :wink:

ROFLMAO…

Rev

l i b e r a l

…shut up dan.

excuse me?

you heard me…

**** off

[size=1](not you phil)[/size]

hey **** you too you ****less whore.

and how would you know, must have bitten it off the last time you gave me head

well you shouldn’t have worn that dress and seduced me like that.

your mom told me to wear it, she said you like it.

she must have confused you with one of my female débutantes.