Yeah, the future of Macs is getting brighter.
Microsoft will shot themselves in the foot. Onlu idot users will buy this Gates controled machines. Advanced users will switch to waht ever else they can. Microsoft will lose money because idot users don’t by $500 design programs. He will have to jack up the price on what normal users consume most. Soon everyone even idot users will get fed up and swich. The next 10 years will be very interesting.
Just thinking about it gives me a headache.
*Originally posted by sintax321 *
…The reason Macromedia is in the red is every body has there software it’s just that 3/4 of the ppl didn’t pay for it. If ppl would stop pirating software then the price of it wouldn’t be so high…
I think that this coin has two sides. If the prices were lower more ppl would buy.
The price for the studio mx is $899.00, in brazilian currency it is almost 4 times than US dollars(R$ 3,300.00). With this money I could by the best computer, or hire a pretty good designer/programer for a website project. So, what happens here in brazil, is that almost every company uses pirate softwares. My company (the one I work for) is all legal, but that´s rare here.
Yeah, it is a bit on the expensive side… but honestly, I think it is worth it. And even more, if you get good enough, the software actually pays for itself in the end 
I think it pays for itself too, otherwise I would have gone with pirate :pirate:
But is too much expensive for my taste:-\
You are forgetting about the group or users Bill is counting on… Corperate users. I doubt you will find and large corperations willing to throw away all of their PCs and buy Macs to replace them all. Microsoft cares very little about the average home user, most of thier profits come from corperations and multi-seat license holders.
It will be interesting to watch things unfold. Game designers, and home user app designers may be forced to start writing programs for Linux, Unix, and MacOS. =)
Cheers!
-Niann
Boy am I glad I stopped computer networking. I would have went to school, gotten my degree, only to find I wouldn’t do it because I won’t touch a computer that uses this new system.
Personally, I don’t think Palladium has ANYTHING to do with pirating software, music, movies or anything. It’s all about increasing the Microsoft monopoly and hopefully getting the entertainment industry (who are mostly Mac-oriented) to finally switch to Windows by enticing them with anti-piracy. I agree with Niann - MS cares very little about average users.
the important issue here goes deeper than Mp3’s and pirated software. You see, these are the reasons that we are given for the creation of this ‘palladium’. The real reason lies in the fact that with the invention of the computer, and internet, any regular joe can create a page about anything and serve it to anyone.
God forbid we continue the idea of free speech.
This is all about contol, and it disgusts me…
well i dont feel like reading too much more than past Ren’s first post but this is what i learnend in school:
Xerox invented it and refined it, Jobbs went in and stole it, gates stole it from Jobbs. But when you look at all the other great things that has come from Microsoft (BASIC!) you see where i am coming form.
ok now i read the rest before posting. but listen, while watching TechLive a WHILE back i remember hearing an MS statement saying there new OS focus was twoards small to large bussnesses. so that is true that the home user is looked over in this os. but still…
*Originally posted by mdipi.com *
Xerox invented it and refined it, Jobbs went in and stole it, gates stole it from Jobbs.
Well since you decided not to read more than my post, you probably missed this little tidbit in the link I provided:
While members of the team did visit PARC, the Apple graphical interface project was well under way before the “famed” visit by Steve Jobs. Members of the early Mac team have gone on record noting that Jobs was taken to PARC so that he could gain a better sense of the concepts that the team was working on regarding the interface. Many of the elements that we associate with the Mac GUI, like drag and drop manipulation of files, the Finder, and types and creators were and are unique to the Mac development team.
But when you look at all the other great things that has come from Microsoft (BASIC!) you see where i am coming form.
What “other great things?” I can’t think of anything. Why don’t you give some examples. Microsoft invented BASIC? I heard otherwise:
This may come as a surprise to many Microsoft apologists, but Bill Gates didn’t invent BASIC, that was invented by two Dartmouth professors about 10 years before Bill Gates and Paul Allen wrote their interpreter for the Altair. For that matter, Bill Gates had worked on a similar BASIC interpreter for the DEC minicomputers while he was an intern at Digital before he wrote Altair BASIC, and Altair BASIC was quite similar to DEC BASIC. Many of the products which Microsoft is famous for weren’t even originally written by Microsoft, they were purchased from other companies or Microsoft absorbed other companies to get them. Examples would be MS-DOS and Visual BASIC. That’s right, Visual BASIC was purchased, not developed originally within Microsoft Furthermore, for example, MS-DOS’s direct predecessor QDOS was a direct clone of CP/M. Windows certainly wasn’t the first GUI, in fact it wasn’t even the first GUI shell that ran on top of MS-DOS.
I agree with Rengerl…
QDOS was actually invented by Seattle Computers and stands for “Quick and Dirty Operating System.” Gates rewrote the contract <i>after he sold QDOS to IBM </i>so that he only had to pay a one time fee (Seattle Computer thought Gates was only selling to one Company, so they let him take out the per company pricing, and let him put in his use exclusivity). Gates then had to adapt QDOS (which he changed the name to MicroSoft Disk OS) to work with IBM, which he had told he already had an OS for their machine. He then went on to license MSDOS to everyone who would pay him money.
Gates has invented very little, but is a master business man who absorbs Companies for parts of their software (Access was ripped right out of Fox Pro, which they rode into the ground), and then makes the rest of the package obsolete, and unuseable because it doesn’t work with the rest of MS products.
It’s all the religeon of Microsoft…
Rev
Ok, so now we have M$'s background, what does this mean if they DO purchase macromedia, their monopoly grows and Java is tottaly pushed out of the picture? does Palladium eventually become a reality? where did i lose my sneakers?
For the record, I’m fine with you being a Windows lover, I really am! But if you make Bill Gates into a god, as though the entire computer technology was his doing, without acknowledging the brilliant, non-MS people who came before him - then I will have a few words with you.
I will stand by you Ren… sure MS has done some great stuff… but that great stuff was originally, and still is spawned from other peoples great stuff. And they get no credit.
Yeah!
[SIZE=1]::runs to stand behind Lost, his arms crossed::[/SIZE]
Rev
*Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl *
**For the record, I’m fine with you being a Windows lover, I really am! But if you make Bill Gates into a god, as though the entire computer technology was his doing, without acknowledging the brilliant, non-MS people who came before him - then I will have a few words with you. **
ok i think thats directed to 3d and maybe mdipi…right?
*Originally posted by mdipi.com *
**hell the guy almost invented the OS as we know it. **
HE DIDNT INVENT SH!T… he stole his orginal OS. Bill Gates lied to IBM when he sold an OS he didnt even have, so he went out and “aquired” one. He is a dirty dirty bastard.
I am sure someone already said this, but I did feel like reading through all the posts… plus I want to say it anyway! :trout: :trout: :trout: :trout:
Peace
lol ur right we …er the others…proved that M$ stole it from jobbs and jobbs from xerox…or something like that so ur right!
you should read all the posts…its quite interesting :beam:
