Atheism

Science is religion though

I don’t believe in the big bang. THE big bang. It’s hard to believe that the entire universe was concentrated into an area smaller than the head of a needle. Where’d this mass come from? Why was it focused at one point. And if the matter prempted the big bang then the big bang did not create the universe. The universe began with the creation of the matter that the big bang formed from.

Laslett has a good point. Religion is drawn from our understanding (or lack thereof) of the universe. Therefor it stands to reason that it will always change.

I can’t look out at the sun. It’d burn my retinas.

Gaining knowledge without first expanding our perceptions to fit means that new information can be overly scrutenised and important discoveries missed. Religion is important in this way as it expands on our abilities to interpret the impossible, not as a data sheet who’s values must be analysed into some logarythmic curve on a graph, but as feeling and emmotion which can be readily understood.

I don’t readily accept religion but I do accept our incignifigance in the scheme of things. I also believe in fate, not as something that has been created before the event itself, but rather as something that is inevitable because of the molecular reactions that give us our ‘thought’ and ‘actions’ will always happen in a specific way at a specific time.

…Hi! Bet that didn’t make any sense at all did it?

*Originally posted by junahu *
**I don’t believe in the big bang. THE big bang. It’s hard to believe that the entire universe was concentrated into an area smaller than the head of a needle. Where’d this mass come from? Why was it focused at one point. And if the matter prempted the big bang then the big bang did not create the universe. The universe began with the creation of the matter that the big bang formed from.
**

Here we go…

Mass came from energy. Things like photons display wave particle duality. Waves have no mass, particles have mass and are therefore interchangeable (its not a good way to discribe it before anyone jumps on that)

“Focused at one point.” Whoa there Bessy. That indicates dimensional thinking. there was no “points” before the universe was created. This it where it messes with your mind. You’re assuming that this “stuff” was sitting around about 5 miles over that - a - way but there was no time or space (space increases with time therefore when time = 0 space = 0) before the big bang. There was just a big lump of energy. Using an example Electricity is energy, how much space does it take up?

Take a peek at either A Brief History of time or The Ascent of Science.

…And energy came from? The problem is that no matter how far you strip this down you’ll eventually come to something that you can’t explain.

…as big as the conductive medium it exists in?

*Originally posted by junahu *
**…And energy came from? The problem is that no matter how far you strip this down you’ll eventually come to something that you can’t explain.
**

Sitting in the primevil soup!

Soup? Is it tasty?

lovely as long as you don’t swallow Uranus!

da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da DA!

I think that lost something in typing!

*Originally posted by junahu *
**…And energy came from? The problem is that no matter how far you strip this down you’ll eventually come to something that you can’t explain.

…as big as the conductive medium it exists in? **
My roommate mentioned this the other day. It was very interesting…

Not only was the notion of God created by man, but so was the notion of TIME. Who says there had to be a begining? Who says there needed to be a big bang, or something higher to create the universe? If there’s no such thing as time, only now, then there is no need for a beginning and no need for an end.

Just something interesting to think about.

*Originally posted by BadMagick *
**My roommate mentioned this the other day. It was very interesting…

Not only was the notion of God created by man, but so was the notion of TIME. Who says there had to be a begining? Who says there needed to be a big bang, or something higher to create the universe? If there’s no such thing as time, only now, then there is no need for a beginning and no need for an end.

Just something interesting to think about. **

Yep but time is a function of light, no light no time. No time no start. No universe no light. No time no beginning. time now exists you can measure it. If there was no beginning then the theory of evolution goes out the window. You going to take on Mr. Darwin?

So okay you break down the big bang theory and eventually you can’t find out where all the energy came from to create the original mass, what happens when you break down the ideas set forth in christianity in the same manner, we come to who created god. I find it easier to explain something really really tiny, like a massless particle, spontaneously appearing, than to explain where a being so superior it was able to create everything around it.

Things usually start simple then work their way up to complicated.