ok i did post the other day about this but it’s a new question
i have been looking at my ASP book and have been very annoyed buy what i am reading
i turns out my CPU (windows XP home) can NOT produce ASP or ASP.NET pages becuase i need something call Framework and that is only on XP Pro and 2000.
now i could be reading it wrong but it looks like i just wasted a load of money on a book i can’t use
can anyone help me out. i want to learn login sripts and post comments and shopping carts stuff like that. i thought ASP would be a good start but i am wrong.
if i try PHP and MySql do i need anything special for that (apart from a sever that runs if of course)
I test run ASP pages locally on my WindowsME box using Microsoft Personal Web Server and Access databases. I create the pages using Dreamweaver, but you could also hand code them in notepad if you were so inclined. I spend a fair amount of time in the code view mode adding to or modifying the code that Dreamweaver writes.
ASP.NET is a completely different critter from ASP. I’m not sure what is required to create ASP.NET pages. I’ll also defer on the PHP and MySql part of the question.
*Originally posted by chris9902 *
**what i want to no is PHP and MySql can make login scripts and shopping carts but i can make and test them on XP home **
Yes, but you have to install Apache, PHP, and mySQL on your machine. in order to test them locally.
and it says in there about local servers to test work but it also says about using c#, VB and loads of other stuff.
i don’t no what the are ( i no VB is Visual Basic) but i don’t no how to use it or if i need software to use it, same with c# and loads of other scripts.
i just want to learn PHP and MySql or ASP (or ASP.NET) or whatever it is.
i have looked but i can’t find anything that tells me what i need to no:sigh:
it tells me i need XP pro or windows 2000 to set but IIS and Framework, i don’t no what these are as it does not explain.
all i want is to make pages on MY cpu (XP home) test them local and them pubish them, not HTML or java i want to learn (like i said) login scripts, e-mail forms, forums, shopping carts and stuff like that.
My advice is to forget ASP.NET, it’s an entity unto itself and so far I haven’t seen that it’s being all that well rec’d by the masses.
ASP (using VBScript), PHP, and Cold Fusion are the most commonly used scripting languages for creating dynamic pages with databases.
MySQL, SQL Server and MS Access are some of the more widely used databases.
If being able to view them on your local box is a priority then ASP and MS Access database is the easiest way to go. The only thing you need is MS Office which you probably already have and MS Personal Web Server which is a free download.
I’ll be following the other responses with some interest, as I want to learn PHP and would like to know what is needed to make it run locally on my Windows ME box.
ASp.NET ROCKS! first you’ll need to install the .net framework, its free and its from microsoft
you need to get IIS running… and if you want to develop asp.net pages, this is the free tool http://asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46
its cool free, and you’ll get started.
I wouldnt forget about ASP.NET, and c#… its the future, and it put ASP out the door , besdies its way better than ASP. If you need more help with that, i have experence with Asp.net and .net, and c# all that. let me know =)
um ray, lol; he can’t run the framework on his pc…lol
ok - chris did you read my other posts in the other topic about this? you can’t just start learning web development in 24 hours; it takes time - www.asp101.com is a great start - lots of info
asp.net is awesome and yes it is about to become mainstream; state governments are not that far from making it standard in the next 5 years. as of now; it is isolated in use; but because people have this idea that the framework is evil due to microsoft’s exploit of it using the .net passport idea…the key here is - use the framework to make a service or idea better than microsoft - ive discussed this so much here and there its tiring -
basically chris - get personal web server, get office, start learning asp…it really is that easy…besides if you are new to this php and sql are going to be 10000000x harder to learn and setup
besides asp is better for big business -
now go research and learn my friend; we can’t hand you answers on everything, some of it you have to learn yourself…if it takes a week or two to understand then so be it
He has XP right? then you can Install the .Net Framework. it has to work on XP Home, or else they’d be shooting themselves in the foot, more and more MS apps are using the .net framework…
and you’re wrong… ASP.NET is better for bigger business =)
its more reliable, and scaleable etc… Its so much better over ASP.
Besides its about to become mainstream, and many places ive seen use it hehe =) I use it at work and there are alot of jobs calling for .Net Architechs. =)
i know i can’t learn this in a week, it took me 4 months to learn HTML and about 2 months for Flash (not actionscript)
i e-mailed the author of the book and he wrote back saying this
ASP.NET pages consist of plain text so yes, you can certainly editor
them locally, upload them to a suitabely equipped server, and run them
there. The server would have to be running Windows 2000 and have the
.NET Framework installed, or be running Windows Server 2003.
If you want to use Visual Studio, or even Visual Basic .NET Standard
(which is perfectly fine for ASP.NET development and probably costs
about £75 or so), then you will need to develop on a machine that has
a Web server with the .NET framework installed. If that’s a remote
server and communications are slow, this could be inconvenient.
An XP Pro Upgrade from XP Home cost about $105 here in the US. I
suppose
that’s about £65 in the UK.
Thanks for buying the book and good luck with your site.
Jim Buyens
so buy that it sounds like if i have a server that is running the 2003 windows server i can just upload them then test them.
i i can’t set but a local server i could just upload them but i is more work.
i think i am going to stick with ASP.NET after what you have said, if it set to become mainstream then that would be what i want to learn to get the job i’m after
Its the Wave of the futrue =) anything Microsoft invests lots of time and effort in implementing seems like a good bet that it’ll be the thing for the next few years =) Sorry you couldnt get it installed localally on your machine, but its pretty cool stuff, If you ever need any help, feel free to contact me, im pretty well expirenced in this asp.net and c# and .net stuff (i Love it). =)
