'Opinions' aren't always right

Yeah David, i missed you!

Anyways, please remember, that even though I agree with the statements in some cases, I didn’t say those things.

Sometimes opinions are just as valid as facts, but on some things (like the professor’s ‘Mona Lisa’) the statements are entirely correct.

So yes. A little from column A, a little from column B.

well, here’s my rule. Never listen to an opinion that’s not supported by facts. After you’ve heard it, try to disprove it with all you can. If the opinion survives… then it’s a pretty **** good opinon.

for example…

it’s my opinion that dogs have 8 legs (no supporting facts, not even listening to that crap)
it’s my opinion that dogs has 8 legs because here I have a picture of one particular dog that has 8 legs (where the hell did you get that dog??? and here I have 1000 pictures of dogs that have four legs… so you’re wrong)

that’s my process. That’s why when people make inflamatory comments, or say stupid things, instead of getting mad and calling them idiots, I ask them where they get their information from. Then I proceed to systematically break down their argument, and show them their error in judgment.

So by my standards, if someone told me that the mona lisa is a butt ugly painting, I wouldn’t even listen to the guy. But if someone told me that the mona lisa is a butt ugly painting because the standards of beauty have changed over the years, as proven by such and such facts, and because painting skills have evolved beyond what Leonardo DaVinci could have ever imagined, as shown by such and such painters… I’d certainly listen to him. At least he has supporting facts.

And I finally put my finger on what bothered me about aislin’s original argument. And here it is. When you talk about matters such as movies or paintings, however widely accepted it is that such and such thing is good, it’s still a subjective matter. Therefore, an opinion in these matters can never be proven right or wrong. If some idiot comes up to you in the street saying that the mona lisa is ugly, you can’t ever prove him wrong. Nor can you ever prove yourself right in saying that the mona lisa is a beautiful painting. There’s simply no scientific method to this.

There are matters in which you can prove an opinion wrong, since there exist well defined standards of right and wrong, like in talking about a war. (sidetrack here… I think a war CAN be proven to be beneficial or harmful by reducing it to the black and white facts. However, there are WAY too many facts to take into consideration, and most people think about the war at a level of abstraction which is not appropriate for debate.)
but there are topics which are extremely subjective, in which you can’t state that someone’s opinion is wrong. Paintings and movies are simply a bad example to use.

David’s so dreamy.