Wow this is very interesting.
Im voting Bush for my own reasons, but everyone else outside the US mostly favors Kerry.
Do you guys think that if Kerry is voted, draws out our forces in Iraq, Afghan, we would be a greater target?
I don’t watch TV, so I can’t say anything about Faux News. But take a look at the track record of old Dubya. Unemployment has risen steadily the last 3 years, we have the largest national deficit ever, the lies about the WMD’s, lies about Hussein & Al Qaeda ties, and the fact that he stole that last election fair and square. C’mon what more do you need? What good has that man does for this country and our relations with the rest of the world? And don’t say that he’s prevented terrorism because thats just like saying because I haven’t been robbed, closing my door has prevented robberies. Kerry’s not much better, with his “i have no clear idealogy on anything” attitude. We americans are pretty screwed with our choices this year. I’d say Nader, but don’t know much about him as the media I get my news from doesn’t cover that guy much.
and regarding
however, speaking of liars…
john kerry claimed that in christmas of 68 nixon sent him
have you heard anything about Ahnulds wonderful speach at the RNC? He claimed to be living under Austrian socialism (the Conservatives were in power the whole time) and that he saw Soviet Tanks in Austria as a boy. I heard the speech and passed it off, few days later I started hearing of all the falsehoods in his speach. Rather than explicity believe what I was told, I did research and found out his speech was full of holes. A majority of the people that get there news from something like Faux News don’t do that, they let the media do there thinking for them. If Faux says that Bush is a great guy, oh well then he must be a great guy. The media wouldn’t lie to me. They might not flat out lie to you, but they sure as hell don’t tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
They all lie, its just that Kerry is so much worse at it. He needs to remember the lies he says so he can repeat them back and not keep switching them around.
And I don’t care if he was in Vietnam, I just want him to lie to me of what he can do for me now.
As for the loss in jobs I would say that started in the last year of Clinton. Just glad it didn’t take more than 7 months to find a job when he was in power.
It’s **not **only Iraq what bothers people. It’s nearly anything that happened in the USA during the Bush period.
things like renaming french fries to freedom fries! Faked intelligence reports! Bush administration not giving a **** on International decisions and laws (preventive war and preemptive war huh?! the Iraq war was preventive! Or how about the torturing of prisoners)! protection fees for products from the USA (any economy expert will tell you that’s the most stupid thing any country can do)! not joining the Kyoto protocol and destroying environment like no other country! baiting american people in the USA with connections that are not there (11.9. <-> Iraq)!
…call me if I shall continue this list.
sorry, but I’ll spit on the floor in front of every person that elects Bush.
As an Austrian, I am pretty close to apologizing for that dumb*ss Schwarzenegger. :sigh:
But hey, it wasn’t us who elected him for governor.
Voting Bush means to condemn democracy.
If he wins I’ll send you my address.
I could send you an envelope with some spittle.
You’ll just have to throw it on the floor in front of you.
sorry, but I’ll spit on the floor in front of every person that elects Bush.
i think i would like to see you try to spit in front of 25,000 rednecks in mississippi and tell them you hate bush… i’m sending my address, too.
oh, and go to the photo album thread and help me figure out what i did wrong with my flash.
due a little lack of spittle I have to renew my statement:
sorry, but I’ll spit on the floor in front of every person I know personally, that elects Bush
I’m not US Citizen… and I vote for BUSH. Infact my family who just got a citizenship will vote for Bush.
I believe in Bush’s vision, he’s exactly what this country needs [from my opinion]
[edit] don’t forget these days the media try everything to “gun” bush down… [cocainne and other issue]… I think that is so stupid… and don’t believe at the fact that a lot of people fall into that story…
I really don’t know as of yet, I really don’t like Bush, but Kerry doesn’t seems to great either.
I think he is a good president.
Look at other tv stations that try to make Kelly as if he’s a good candidate by broadcasting unbelievable lies. C’mon Bush used cocainne at camp david?? they gotta come with something better than that.
Not to mention baout that guy… I forgot his name is… he’s one of Kerry’s campaigner, even his daughter said his father was a liar.
don’t forget these days the media try everything to “gun” bush down… [cocainne and other issue]… I think that is so stupid… and don’t believe at the fact that a lot of people fall into that story…
Swift boat ads anyone ? Who’s the one not focusing on the issues but on the candidates instead ?
[ot]I’ll definitely vote for Bush this time around - if anything, just to meet McGiver 
My address is:[indent]362 Memorial Drive,
Cambridge, MA 02139(room 530)
[/indent]I’ll provide a spitoon, which I’ll auction off on ebay, after you spit in it =)[/ot]
Here are the reasons why I’m voting for W:
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Pro-business. Whether you like or dislike corporations, they are the ones that control investment in the economy and provide employment for a good portion of people. In my view, Kerry’s views on corporations is like watching the labor unions destroy the airlines - which is true if you look at the financials of major US airline carriers.
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Pro-outsourcing. If any of you read the New York Times, Tom Friedman wrote a series of great articles that show the benefits of outsourcing. It’s a business cycle, and people will have to get used to it. People lost manufacturing jobs in the 80’s to overseas producers, but shortly afterwards, people discovered the service sector. If someone like Kerry decided that manufacturing is good because it provides employment in the short-term, the technological revolution would have completely bypassed the US. Like Tom Friedman also points out, unlike blue collar workers who lose their jobs, white collar workers tend to vote, are noisy about their views, and write editorials for the NYT - that’s why it is an issue in the election
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Firm in his views. I personally dislike wishy-washy people who change their views to suit their interests. Yes, having certain views will make you less popular, but giving in to peer pressure and changing your views for personal benefit shows a lack of character imo. Kerry has not only a record of changing his views when speaking, which is understandable when you make so many speeches as he or any well-known politician would, but what bugs me is that he goes through the hassle of supporting laws and bills that only a few months earlier he opposed.
EDIT: Kerry campaign is behind the GW Air National Guard service ads. Both sides like to think that what happened 30 years ago somehow matters.
EDIT2: I’m actually in favor of the US pulling out of Kyoto. I’ll support it when the Kyoto protocol includes India and China, for without that, more companies will simply shift their operations to those countries that don’t have any pollution controls.
:kommie:
and I heard that Bush did sign something for the pentagon to release his military records… while kerry has not… still thinking probably 
Man I am that sick of those biased views.
I could vomit.
Gotta get outa here
Why isn’t there an option to vote for someone that’s not Bush or Kerry?
Why isn’t there an option to vote for someone that’s not Bush or Kerry?
Because then we might actually have some real change…
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse than Bush and Gore, we have Bush and Kerry…
To think that Kerry is any sort of real opposition to Bush is to be misled. Kerry was picked because he is a candidate that is hard to support, and thus Bush will have a better chance at standing up to the competition. Had they picked a person with real American values, Bush would not stand a chance, and everyone knows it. Again, we are stuck with voting for the lesser of two evils.
I think that the reason that so much is focused on Kerry’s habit of flip-flopping, is that it allows people to paint Bush’s stubborness, and unwillingness to consider popular opinion (bad qualities for a President) as being Determined and Steadfast in his views, with a clear vision of how he wants to lead… (suddenly these become enduring qualities, when compared to Flip-Flopper Kerry)…’
Its just like the somewhat attractive girl that surrounds herself with hideously ugly girls, in order to appear more attractive…
I too am skeptical of Nader, though his VP selection Peter Camejo is a very great speaker, with ideals that i can identify with…
One candidate that looks like he’s on the right track is John Buchanan
http://buchanan04.blogspot.com/
One thing is for certain: ANYBODY BUT A BONESMAN
bye
those threads all look the same to me.
And you guys need to go see “OutFoxed - how Ruppert Murdoch tried to screw the world over”. It’s a fun movie. And puts things in perspective when considering Fox News… It really does. (oh, yes, it’s biased ==> you can’t make a movie like that without taking a side - you can dilute, yes, but you have to choose a side anyhow).
I agree though. It’s wierd. It’s not that I would be voting for Kerry if I were American. I just would be voting against Bush. Any one with less conservative (and more social) views will do imo. Oh. And someone who can actually say “nuclear” without repeating (reading, dare I say…) nucular 5 times in a row.
[edit]Isn’t Buchanan the same one who ran against Clinton and Bush(?) in 96? The one who’s ideas and ideals flirt with right wing extremists?? [/edit]
