Windows Code For The Taking!

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http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,62284,00.html?tw=wn_techhead_22

i don’t really understand how this can happen, 5% of the windows source code leaked?!

o and something else (you can cosider the following question out of the blue) how in the world did bill gates create win 3.1 by himself(or did he not), i mean i’m still struggling with actionscript, how can he build such a thing nearly from scratch?

what is windows based on anywayz, is it based on linux?

don’t qoute me on any of the above.

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Wow, this might have desastrous results …

And I don’t think Bill Gates has built Windows 3.1 all by himself. I think he and a friend of his were asked to develop an OS, which they did (or stole it from somewhere else), and that would’ve resulted in DOS.

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I think you find that someone else made DOS.

That Bill bought it for $2000

He then sold it to Apple as an OS.

With all the money he made on that deal he started his own company…

But I could be wrong.

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hope no more leaks out. hope it doesnt turn out like in that movie anti trust :stuck_out_tongue:

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Bill Gates bought the OS from a small time company for cheap and sold it to IBM for millions of dollars, shortly after the small time company sued Microsoft, and they payed the small time company enough money for them to all retire with good-enough lives. :smiley:

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as far as I know, BG stole the concept of windows from apple… they where the first to use windows in an OS (not windows as in windows ©, but WINDOWS… the squares with content)

of corse, I can’t verify it, it was just something I’ve heard :slight_smile:

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…that’s pretty darn close - and it CAN be verified…

Bill neither wrote DOS nor did he sell it … he licensed it (rents it - as he did/does windows)… o-wise he’d not have made more than a one-time chunk of money and there’d be no micro$oft as we know it today . and the GUI that made windows possible was borrowed from Apple, who, when they sued - bowed out because it was shown that they also borrowed the technology (Xerox PARC)

Bill was more a marketeer/entrepeneur than a programmer …hiring a flock of techies (once his bank was fat) to take his biz to the next level…

check this bit from the “The Art of Unix… > Origins and History of Unix …” [Eric S. Raymond]::

[size=1]…In 1981, Microsoft made its historic deal with IBM over the new IBM PC. Bill Gates bought QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), a clone of CP/M that its programmer Tim Paterson had thrown together in six weeks, from Paterson’s employer Seattle Computer Products. Gates, concealing the IBM deal from Paterson and SCP, bought the rights for $50,000. He then talked IBM into allowing Microsoft to market MS-DOS separately from the PC hardware. Over the next decade, leveraging code he didn’t write made Bill Gates a multibillionaire, and business tactics even sharper than the original deal gained Microsoft a monopoly lock on desktop computing. XENIX as a product was rapidly deep-sixed, and eventually sold to SCO.

It was not apparent at the time how successful (or how destructive) Microsoft was going to be. Since the IBM PC-1 didn’t have the hardware capacity to run Unix, Unix people barely noticed it at all (though, ironically enough, DOS 2.0 eclipsed CP/M largely because Microsoft’s co-founder Paul Allen merged in Unix features including subdirectories and pipes).[/size]

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so i WAS right? =)

:love:

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y’all should rent the Movie Pirates of Silicon Valley sometime.

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*Originally posted by mansour *
**
what is windows based on anywayz, is it based on linux?

don’t qoute me on any of the above. **

If it was based on linux(it definitely isn’t), then we’d all be able to get the source code legally: the GPL means that the source to all derivative works must be released to the public.

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Pirates of Silicon Valley sometime

I think thats the video / documentry that I watched…
but it was 3-5 years ago.

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*Originally posted by RelandR *
**…that’s pretty darn close - and it CAN be verified…

Bill neither wrote DOS nor did he sell it … he licensed it (rents it - as he did/does windows)… o-wise he’d not have made more than a one-time chunk of money and there’d be no micro$oft as we know it today . and the GUI that made windows possible was borrowed from Apple, who, when they sued - bowed out because it was shown that they also borrowed the technology (Xerox PARC)

Bill was more a marketeer/entrepeneur than a programmer …hiring a flock of techies (once his bank was fat) to take his biz to the next level…

check this bit from the “The Art of Unix… > Origins and History of Unix …” [Eric S. Raymond]:: **

wow man thanx!:thumb:

but for those of you who are currently either win nt or 2000 don’t u feel worried?

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*Originally posted by eilsoe *
**so i WAS right? =)

:love: **

[edit]- I just re-read your post :x you’re 100% right about Apple being the first [/edit]

Apple in fact released “LISA” as the first one of those
see:

there’s a lot more to the settlement between Apple and M$ … (not going to dig up source now) … but basically Apple was lured to an out-of-court settlement table by the prospect of embarasment and protracted court battle that would have exposed the “Xerox” connection …
M$ agreed to stop using the GUI in their windowsOS but twisted the wording so it allowed them to use it in future versions/re-writes (sneakyBasdiges)
Apple had dumb lawyers and got snookered :sure:
and yet again- Bill took technology that he did not create (remember all the ‘rip’ threads boys and girls)… and ran amuck all the way to the bank.over and over and…

it wouldn’t break my heart if the whole thing crashed and burned on Bilbo~Barnum~Gates … but alas - it won’t :-/

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it’s not that hard to beleve i mean linux was build by one man. linux there by meaning the first linux.

and true RelandR he stole most of the idea’s and code.

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Wow so much animosity towards Bill Gates :wink: I actually think he is a pretty brilliant guy…(ducks for all the broken bottles of glass being hurled in my direction!) I even got tickets to see him speak this Thursday :cool:

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wow lol i would never fall for sometin like that…

lol my dads hates windows and he has a picture of bill gates face under his desk mat and when windows freezes he punches it.

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Kirupa! …BG’s biggest groupie :thumb: I was wondering where you’d gotten to ;);):wink:

…I think he’s brilliant too Kman … in a pirate kinda way… :wink:

…but facts-is-facts… :-/ and he’s not the computer genius many think he is

…he is however a marketing genius meThinks

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I forgot where but I think it was some Bill Gates biography but i heard he made some deal and on the plane ride there (to the meeting or whatever) he and a partner wrote the code… I don’t know the exact wording AT ALL but I thought he and a competing company were racing to finish DOS or some other primitive OS.

And no matter how bad you hate Bill Gates, he is a brilliant man, i mean he is at times a crude business man but i mean if anyone can take something as small as DOS and turn it into a mutlibillion dollar empire that NOW makes it own, awesome software, you have to be a genius.

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He is, in my opinion, a brilliant business man. He had an idea of getting the PC easy to use for everybody, and he accomplished it with easy to use products. He may not have developed them himself/Microsoft, but that doesn’t necessarily matter though. Almost all of the best companies today use technologies built by another company. Intel, GE, Ford, etc. all improved upon earlier products and eventually developed their own programs similar to MS with various office apps, hardware, etc.

Factor in his philanthropic work, and he seems like a pretty good guy overall :wink:

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I actually think he is a pretty brilliant guy

I think he is a great guy too and I am tired of hearing ignorant idiots bashing him because they are jealous of his success.

I have never once heard him claim to be a great coder. He is a business man like the millions of others out there. It just happens that he was a programmer as well.

So why do people hate him so much?
Because he has accomplished in his life what most of us could only ever dream of.

Those who appreciate all he has accomplished call him a brilliant business man. The ones who are to jealous to see this call him names.

Now there are the people who are jealous of him & Microsoft, but rather than turn around and admit that they don’t like him because they are to busy envying him.
They say they hate him because he takes away our freedom of choice with his monopoly and anti-competitive business strategies.

Well if we didn’t have Bill and Windows what would we have ?

We would have dozens of small companies all trying to market there own OS. These operating systems would be crap compared to Windows because they wouldn’t have the monopoly and hence resources to be able to develop on the scale of Microsoft.

So we would have dozens of small operating systems all using there own technology and file formats.

Because of this software companies wouldn’t be able to concentrate on making their programs work on one OS.
Now because they would be spending so much time trying to get their programs to work on all of them, their programs would be no where near as good as they are today, and you would have nowhere near the choice of programs we have because they would take so much longer to develop.

Next time you think about bashing Gates or Microsoft think about where we would be today without them.
If Microsoft didn’t have a monopoly they wouldn’t have been able to develop windows 3.1, or 95, 98, Xp etc.

If there was no Micrsoft, by now if we were lucky, we might all be using 1 of 20 different operating systems that are the equivalent of windows 3.1 and we would all be playing games like the original DOOM.

Think about it