ok yes those are facts, but I what I meant was statistcis, you know like mathmatical proof that 60 percent of people join because of patrotic reasons and 40 percent because they are dumb as rocks. So far nobody has any proof that way. I can say that my brothers didn’t join because they felt it was their patrotic duty. So that’s just as good.
My younger brother wanted to become a pilot. And my older brother needed a full time job to support his family. As for my father I don’t know, I’ve never asked.
I accept that there are patrotic people in fact I am reminded by every single bumper sticker, everytime I hear united we stand, everytime I see a flag outstide someones home. I never said there wasn’t patrotic people I said that I didn’t believe the majority of people joined the military because of patrotic reasons. I’m sorry I misspoke earlier when I said I wanted facts, when I wanted proof, just because you know patrotic people and I know people who aren’t as much and these are facts doesn’t give much strength to our arguments. If there was some statstics then I would gladly conceede that the majority of people are patrotic who join the military.
there are some ppl that confuse protesters with anti-patriotics.
and some ppl that confuse debates with discussions…
We have to accept that in a debate there is no winning side.
I do believe that most part of the ppl that join the military is for patriotic reasons… but i also believe that most of them don´t ahve a clue of what´s all about, and what´s true patriotism is.
Patriotism isn´t just enbracing a flag or singing the national anthen (sp?)… nor even just joining the military… it is the constant search for what is the best for his country, even if that means to fight against it sometimes. The rulers doesn´t always do/know what is best for the country.
Patriotism isn´t just enbracing a flag or singing the national anthen (sp?)… nor even just joining the military… it is the constant search for what is the best for his country, even if that means to fight against it sometimes. The rulers doesn´t always do/know what is best for the country. **
I think you got them reversed, debate and discussion. You can win a debate, you can’t win a discussion. But I understand what you are saying, I don’t know if I wanted to have a winner so much as I wanted to bolster our arguments, right now we are speaking from personal experiences which is limited to ourselves and those who we know.
*Originally posted by reverendflash *
**Fester… it is best to ignore smartarse statements like that from pinx. All it will do is incite an arguement which is what she wants…
And Guigo:
Very well said!
Rev **
i don’t want an argument, i was just stating a fact. you can call it what you want.