for the record, I don’t believe in suffering. Suffering is a self induced state which prevents one from removing that which is causing the suffering. It is much better to act now, and suffer later if at all possible
That is very true, so I don’t think “suffering” should be thrown around here too much.
Perhaps you do… I can’t say for sure… but it’s been my experience that most people who believe that they are well grounded in science, actually don’t know a lot of the principals of scientific investgation.
Again, no offence taken, but I do believe that science is what I believe in and that’s a big part of my atheism reasons.
Jubba:
My beliefs have a scientific background, however my ideas don’t have scientific backing. I would definately believe scientific evidence over theology…
Very true, theology is just a piece of mind on something, science is cold proof.
Thorphies:
lately, i’ve been starting to doubt this whole faith thing. i never really understood the reasoning behind going to church every Sunday for the same thing each time.
All part of their propaganda.
I think everyone should doubt their “faith thing” sooner or later, no one truly understand to meaning of church except a place for worship. Again, propaganda.
Science is not always cold proof. Many things are found to be untrue and then rediscovered. You can’t really trust science all that much either. What is truth one day, may be hearsay the next.
I don’t think everyone should necessarily doubt their faith, but simply question their beliefs and question their religion on a regular basis. Don’t be a sheep and just follow something because that is how you were brought up. Think for yourself and have your own ideas.
Even atheism requires different levels of faith. You are still believing in something that is not, and can not be proven. You have faith in the fact that there is no divine force…
Science is not always cold proof. Many things are found to be untrue and then rediscovered. You can’t really trust science all that much either. What is truth one day, may be hearsay the next.
I’m sticking with science for now though, that’s the only true firm belief in my life right now. If science is just a propaganda also, then my life is pointless.
I don’t think everyone should necessarily doubt their faith, but simply question their beliefs and question their religion on a regular basis. Don’t be a sheep and just follow something because that is how you were brought up. Think for yourself and have your own ideas.
Thats what I meant, question beliefs is like, a healthy thing to do I guess. Lol @ “Don’t be a sheep.” =)
Even atheism requires different levels of faith. You are still believing in something that is not, and can not be proven. You have faith in the fact that there is no divine force…
I wouldn’t call that faith though. That’s more of an idea than faith. Faith requires a belief of something, and I don’t think my idea is a belief. O wait, I’m confusing myself. :hangover:
Oh, I’m sticking with science too, but don’t follow it blindly. Again, my same advice is question everything. Those who follow science blindly are just the same as those that follow religion blindly.
Ok, who exactly makes the dictionary? There has to be a person that writes them and defines them. This guy or girl has to believe in something such as either atheist or not. So, that’s still influenced by an opinion. Unless a dictionary is generated by a computer, there will always be a human influence on this kind of stuff, therefore, we can’t fully trust it.
Yes, but still human judgement involved here. Machines has to get to one point where they don’t judge. I’m sure those who pursue a dictionarian career practice some form of religion and they would affect their decision making.
I’m sure whoever writes in the dictionary is capable of being totally indifferent on everything and anything. but that’s beside the point.
I think atheism is just living freely, without worrying about some morals, and following the great big book. It is living without having to worry about whether your actions are a sin or not. like said, it is like its own religion, but not. i mean atheists don’t actively not believe in a superpower, but are rather indifferent about it. “So there’s a God, so there’s no God, meh”. It is one less obligation in their lives. Christians must think of charity and doing good. that is their obligation by following the faith. I’m starting to see Christianity, or any other religion, as a suggested way of life, a recommendation if you will. I once knew an atheist who went to a Catholic school with me and he really didn’t care about any of the teachings. He never understood why his parents made him go in the first place.
I agree with thoriphes’ idea that religion is just a “suggested” way of life. I don’t think it’s a good suggestion or a bad suggestion, I guess it’s just upon choice.
