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I love illustrator!
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Hey thats real symetrically smooth lined. I like this.
I’ve been wondering about the advantages of using illustrator over photoshop, could you tell me? 
Illustrator is all about drawing, whereas Photoshop is definitely more about photomanipulation/image cropping.
Basically, Photoshop works on a per-pixel basis. You want to change an image, that’s fine, but you’re going to have to go in and change it pixel x pixel. Lots of people love this, many don’t.
Illustrator is all vector-based, and the images remain nice and smooth, and stay editable through points throughout the image.
If you’ve used Fireworks, you’ve used something slightly similar to Illustrator, but unbelievably weak/different in comparison. Freehand is close, but I’m an Adobe products kinda’ guy, so I stick with Illustrator and photoshop for all of my design needs.
I like a mixture of both Photoshop and Illustrator when I’m doing my work. Usually start with Illustrator for illustrations, and pull them into photoshop for design and web work. If Print, I’ll take them into InDesign.
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Thanks for the distinction.
The goldleaf on your web page image, is this done in illustrator? What’s illustrator like for manipulating text? This vector concept is still not registering. When you say ‘drawing’ it made me think of lines sketched with some implement. As you know in photoshop there’s vector options for shapes and lines and such that remain editable, I assume that illustrator gives tons more options in this vector art area.
Interesting, I must download a trial version and give it a go. :cyborg:
basically vector can be resized with very little loss…I too use ill sometimes but you cannot beat the round trip edittin between flash, freehand, fireworks, and dreamweaver. It is that reason alone I recommend macromedia over adobe in that respect but a deff must is photoshop
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**Thanks for the distinction.
The goldleaf on your web page image, is this done in illustrator? What’s illustrator like for manipulating text? This vector concept is still not registering. When you say ‘drawing’ it made me think of lines sketched with some implement. As you know in photoshop there’s vector options for shapes and lines and such that remain editable, I assume that illustrator gives tons more options in this vector art area.
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It’s an typeface from Adobe’s FontFolio - which is essentially a set of “embellished” wingdings. Since I’ve found the font, I’d say that 100% of the work I see on the web featuring these sorts of things (from professional designers) is this font. It’s quite cool! Of course, FontFolio is $8999, but the font itself is much cheaper 
Vector, in the vector format, can be resized with absolutely no loss of image quality at all. It remains pristine, which is why it’s so perfect for printing.
You draw with a Bezier Pen tool most of the time. Put one point here and then another point there, which makes a line. Then use a set of “handles” to bend that line to a curve. So on and so forth.
When I first saw Illustrator in action, I thought, “I’ll never get the hang of that! No way!” Now I can’t imagine my life without the program. Once you’re proficient with Illustrator, it’s just super powerful.
As for Fireworks & Macromedia project, it’s all about preference. You can’t beat how easy it is to change things in Fireworks, but the lack of polish/capabilities when compared to Photoshop keeps me from switching to the program.
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photoshop (and image ready) is beats fireworks by far. I sure wish macromedia got fireworks up to photoshop standard. I suppose they were desparate to release their studio mx. Jumping between photoshop and imageready does my head in on my 96ram and 300mhz pc. I wish it was all in one program like fireworks.
thanks again for the clarification bleutuna
I’m going to give illustrator ago, looks like a program I’d like to use
actually fireworks is not meant to compete with PS7 it mainly a vector tool…with a few blends…it would never replace PS7 in my tool box
Hey bleu how did you do that concrete texture? that is sweet would you mind sharing
i’m surprised you called FireWorks unbelievably weak in comparison. I found that it was very intuitive and tbh, I thought Illustrator was really filly (you have to be soooo pixel perfect when trying to edit the handles)
great work though
asphalt: I thought Illustrator was really filly (you have to be soooo pixel perfect when trying to edit the handles)
Perhaps it’s because I started with Illustrator, so to me, the handles are second nature?
The problem I’ve had with drawing with Vector in Fireworks is the same as when drawing paths in Photoshop: The curves continue. Making a straight, sharp angle doesn’t work, whereas in Freehand and Illustrator, you simply click off and reselect that point to continue on.
It’s really all about preference :crazy:
As for the concrete texture…
It’s just Photoshop. I have set of dirty brushes I’ve found throughout the years on the web, and I took those brushes and created a black and white image in Photoshop with them. I saved it as texture.psd, and the simply used it in the FILTER > TEXTURE > TEXTURIZER in Photoshop, adjusting the highs, lows and scaling accordingly.
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Hey Bleu
something I stumbled across. Add a alpha channel to your image then add a noise filter(noise>add noise Iused a setting of 10) to that alpha channel…then add a lighting filter (render>lighting effects) you will come out with a pretty cool concrete texture…Then add your effect to that and you come out with a pretty cool realistic concrete…
To 3d peeps this makes a cool concrete for use on textures also…If anyone wants a better explanation let me know
this is what it looks like
