So in conclusion, if you don’t like the country, burn a sign that says “I hate the US” or “I hate Bush” or whatever you want, just don’t burn a flag.
doesn’t “I hate the US” mean the same thing as burning their flag ??? and besides not all know how to write english :trout:
no seriously though - don’t you people thung I’m FOR flagburning - I think it’s stupid to get to this point. All I’m saying is that it’s effective… cause we’ve just had heated replies…
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I think it’s a way to express your feelings, even if it is a pretty dumb way…
Russian - I don’t think the US should be burning Afghanistan’s flag. I’m sure Afghanistan (or that area) may have had a really good history hundreds if not thousands of years prior to when the US may have been established. Afghanistan hasn’t really lived up to its past for several decades, but burning the flag because of what a few fanatics did is ridiculous. I don’t approve of flag burning of any sort - regardless of what country it is.
If any country somehow manages to exist today as an independent country, sometime back in its history it must have had individuals who sacrificed their lives to fight for their borders against colonialism and all that other good stuff that causes countries to somehow get lost inside other countries and regions - thus losing their identity in the world and losing their place in a country drop-down list when you sign up to receive free spam e-mail :?:
Cheers!
Kirupa 
*Originally posted by RussianBeer *
**This is directed at Fester and Prstudio or someone who is against flag buring.
If you had the power would you make flag burining illigal? **
If I had the power, I most certainly would. Its not about free speech. Its about total disregard.
Its hard for me to look at it from a different perspective because I dont live in another country where my flag does not carry as much meaning.
I beleive it is.
I guess thats why I like the US so much, In most countries I wouldnt be able to burn the countries flag, but in the USA I can.
Russian - I don’t think the US should be burning Afghanistan’s flag.
Okay, Honestly, Can you speculate for me, I mean: 9/11 happened, your angry, pissed off, you find out that it comes out of afghanistan. I mean, this isnt now, where your cooled off, but back then when people wanted real revenge.
Would it still be okay. And if some americans out of Anger burn the Afghan flag is it okay? (Back then, just after 9/'11)
Interesting reading peeps. For the record I don’t agree with the act of flag burning, I just think that it should be made illegal…
Cool, but what about
My opinion: Who cares?, burn away.
I thought you said you dont care…
Maybe you changed your mind 
Interesting reading peeps. For the record I don’t agree with the act of flag burning, I just think that it should be made illegal…
oops, that was a typo… shouldn’t be made illegal was what i meant…:-\
I think its okay legal…
I personaly think that burning anyones flag is not very nice. But it does turn heads. Its a desperate act of protest. I think instead of worring about arresting people who burn flags, we should stop the source of the problem… Why are they burning the flags!
But yeah, sometimes there are just complete ignorant bastards, that burn flags. Who dont really know why they are really doing it… but well. some people dont even deserve our anger.
No, some people dont deserve our anger.
Im lucky that I have never witnessed someone taking a flame to my flag.
I would still be serving time for ripping out someones neck pipe with my bare hands.
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*Originally posted by RussianBeer *
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I personaly think that burning anyones flag is not very nice. But it does turn heads. Its a desperate act of protest. I think instead of worring about arresting people who burn flags, we should stop the source of the problem… Why are they burning the flags!
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the reason why isn’t nessaseraly a sound one. In europe there have been many rally’s of the anti-globalist movement. Personally i think only a few ppl know what it stands for, the major part is there because it’s fashionable to revolt, and anotherpart is there to fight.
anyway bout their reason, many think communism is the way to go. (Granted communism has it’s plus sides, but there are also many downsides to it. These downsides are almost always forgotten by fanatical ppl.) Changing to suit their needs would be an almost impossible task because even if it would change, there will always be people that won’t agree with the current form of government.
Anyway, i don’t agree with the burning of flags, but then again i don’t agree with al lot of things. But i’m tolerant, so if anyone wants to be that stupid they should make up the mind for themselves. But if they do they should do so because they stand behind it and not because it makes them look though.
Well, if you read the whole posts, you can see some people burn flags for no reason, and they are just ignorant…
They dont even deserve our anger…
Even though so far I see many reasons flag burning will upset someone, no reason to see it illigal. (we have to many of the wrong things illigal arlready)
Well Russian, getting back to the burning of Afghani flags, it would be difficult to not burn down the flags of a people who probably caused you hardship. I guess when an occupying country burns the occupied country’s flag, I may look the other way.
When citizens of their own country burn their own flags without any worthy reasons, they should suffer the fate that nali mentioned in his first post on the second page 
Cheers!
Kirupa :beam:
Yeah, when without reason, but being stupid, I agree
What do you think the American Flag stands for the American Idians?
To the American Indians, the American Flag stands for an occuping power that has destroyed them almost completle…
It’s always amazing how people get so worked up over flags. They’re just flags. Yes, they represent those things you treasure, but they aren’t those things. Why are people so insecure? A simplification, yes, but still true.
Well, think about this. If I took a picture of your mother and spit on it, how would you feel? How about if I deficated upon your fathers grave?
The flag represents something to people the same way that graves and pictures are important. They contain more than memories, they contain Gnosis. Energy of motivation, of inspiration and perfect ideals. When one burns such a symbol, it is the same as any insult that can be flung at someone.
Now in this world there are many types of people, but some will not take an insult without retaliation. I’m not going to say that that is healthy, but I doubt that it’s entirely unhealthy for a society to conduct itself in such a manner.
All I’m saying is, don’t be surprised when people take great offence to flag burning.
It’s always amazing how people get so worked up over flags. They’re just flags. Yes, they represent those things you treasure, but they aren’t those things. Why are people so insecure? A simplification, yes, but still true
Its a symbol, as human beings, we are not animals, we speak, we communicate, we can tell anger from happiness…
That said, symbols for human society is extremly important to operate effisiently. For example, time (minutes, hours) is also not real, but we do follow it. Same thing, even if the flag is just an image it reprsents within imagination alot for people.
Burning , or disgracing a flag, is a form of communication, like saying we don not like your country, what it stands for… etc…
So if you tell someone you hate their country, they might get angry, same thing.
I personally feel/pheel it’s ok for someone to say they dislike the US, or hate bush. I just get angry when someone burns a flag. To me the flag is a symbol of freedom, democracy, and the men/women who have fought to preserve these ideals. When I see someone burning a flag, it makes me angry that they are pissing on the graves of the men who gave them that right. I don’t see anything wrong with protesting the government, or saying you hate the way it’s being run, I actually like that. I just don’t like when people burn flags or say that the troops are baby killers and stuff like that.
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