Is Terrorism Justified in Muslim Law?

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Ok i did a little research and found a lot of disturbing muslim scripture. I dont know if im taking this out of context, if i am someone please clarify these passages. Im just curious as to whether muslims are supposed to be doing terrorism like al queda is doing or are taking scripture out of context and thinking they are doing the right thing? Most of the time when you see they torrorists speaking on videos, they are fully confident then Allah is behind them, backing what they are doing. Is it true that all non-muslim people are infidels to Islam and they are enemies that need to be killed?
:-/
Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Qur’an 8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Qur’an 9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.”

Qur’an 8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”

Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”

Qur’an 9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

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surely we have some muslims in here that can give me some insight :ear:

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Well I can’t say to much because I’m not Muslim. I do have Muslim friends and I can tell you that they definatly don’t agree with or support any type of terrorism.

Also the word “fight” is used a lot in your example, could it be that “fight” is just a symbol and does not mean to literally fight?

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this is no different than any other religion (minus buhddism)… Killing people who dont submit to you is ***-hattery… (bloody biggotry)

Just take out allah and replace it with whatever they worship…

For Buhddists “You shall sit on your *** until theysearch for enlightenment or something”…

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Bottom line, Islam does not justify Terrorism, and does not agree with september’s attacks.

Notice the usage of the word Fight and not Kill. I think you’d really have to read over ancient history to understand this. Read upon both the Islamic conquestions and the Crusader movements way back in the day, like cheesy_x said, this kind of thing is common among many religions. Wars were to spread religion–both Christianity and Islam were spread by the sword-- but it wasn’t civilians who were killed (Islam has very strict rules as to who may be killed during a war, but whether they’re properly followed is a different story,) and, as far as I as a Muslim am concerned, that is the kind of situations the quotes above refer to. They dont mean that i as a Muslim am supposed to go kill any non-muslims just because they are, and if anything, it encourages making peace with others.

Terrorism and Islam are really way too unrelated; Mainstream media managed to engrave this sort of relation, mention Islam, your subconsious relates to Terrorism and vice-versa, and that’s just sad.

Sorry for the scattered post, I’m at work and shouldn’t exactly be on here now… lol

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Bottom line, Islam does not justify Terrorism, and does not agree with september’s attacks.

But apparently Christianity does… sad…

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Does it? Any examples…?

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*ahem… Witchburnings, the crusades, sunday school… Etc Etc Etc…

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Um, we are both taking things out of contest with christianity and islam.

True, islam does say those things, but it also talks alot about nut hurting anyone, living in peace, and what not.

Same with christianity, the chapter right before(or after) that famous anti-homosexual chapter talks about stoning your childrent to death if they disobey. Does this mean chrisitans are evil child murderes, well some are, but not more than any other group.

With the only diffrence is, right now as it is much of Islamic authority is in areas with alot of militant authority, like Iraq, Iran, Malaysia, Palestine and other areas of conflict so at the moment its less main (western) stream. So it appears more militant, just like Chirstendom was during the 13-17 century, from about late dark ages to enlightenment. While there are still many christian militant authority around the world(malaysia being one example), they are outweighted by mainstreat that resides in the western world. While even the bulk of Islamic authority is in the middle east, currently the middle east is a area of alot of conflict.

Thats all, of course if we examine things out of context we can make anything look evil. Hey a monk burned himself in Vietnam, so all monks are suicidal maniacs bent on self distruction? Sarcam, right.

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Sunday School… :lol:

at one point both religions were spread at blade point, so I think they both have as much right to flaw as any other religion…
However I think the term terrorism is bassed on a point of view…
I’m sure that to the brits in the 1700’s Goerge Washington was somewhat of a terrorist…
and in Iraq right now I am sure that some of them are thinking we are terrorists…
just an idea…

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There are verses in the Bible when read individually without putting it with the larger picture that would make us look bad also :slight_smile:

The problems with Islam today is not the religion itself, it is just that a few leaders take it to an extremist view in an attempt to pursue whatever goals they may have. The problem with Christianity in the past with the Crusades is that a few leaders took it to an extremist point of view to pursue whatever goals they may have.

One day people will realize that religious wars are a waste of resources and time. It took Christianity and related religions at least several hundred if not a thousand years to move away from that and fight for something more noble…land hehe :evil:

All religions at one time or another have used their religion to perform murders. There are non-religious (atheists) groups who have commited mass murders also - esp. former Communist rulers in Russia and China.

I’ve never really read the Qu’Ran, but I’m sure for every verse that promotes violence, you’ll find many more that promote non-violence.

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Yep its all about leadership

He was able with the money of the
Church and of the people to sustain his armies, and by that long war to
lay the foundation for the military skill which has since distinguished
him. Further, always using religion as a plea, so as to undertake greater
schemes, he devoted himself with a pious cruelty to driving out and
clearing his kingdom of the Moors; nor could there be a more admirable
example, nor one more rare. Under this same cloak he assailed Africa, he
came down on Italy, he has finally attacked France

The Prince *
Nicolo Machiavelli
http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm

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*ahem… Witchburnings, the crusades, sunday school… Etc Etc Etc…

Lol, sunday school, that is absolutely hilarious that you paired sunday school with witchburnings and crusades. If that was a joke you are seriously funny, if not your still funny but need realize that sunday schools arent forcing anyone to do anything, they are teaching the people willing to learn. That hurts noone and is not forcing anyone to do anything.

Thanks for all the input guys.

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I don’t know what Qu’ran you read but in the one I read it doesn’t say that anywhere. No where in the qu’ran does it say that…it’s seriously insulting to read that. Whatever research you did, it must’ve been false information. The qu’ran says it’s a sin to lie and it’s a sin to drink alcohol! Do you seriously think it’ll say it’s okay to kill?

:sigh:

People like al’queda and osama bin laden are a bunch of bastards that went wrong in their brain and think that killing americans and people is right. They want all muslims to “unite”. I swear if I had the power I would seriously shoot them in the head by my hand for making everyone think that islam is the “bad religion of killers”…

Now I’m not the type of person who goes and prays everyday, I’m going to hell for that…but I do know what’s wrong or right, even though I never go to church and what not…

And no I don’t justify terrorism.

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I found the translation posted not to be exactly accurate and faithful, but reworded it would convey a close-enough message, but then again, my first post (hopefully) explains it…

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Can you read arabic? I certainly can’t but my mother knows 4 languages and she’s read the qu’ran - it doesn’t say to fight.

Research on the internet? Come on the authors gonna say what he thinks is right and obviously what he can’t read, he’ll guess.

Learn it, read a real copy of the book, and then you come and tell me :).

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I speak Arabic and have read the Qu’ran. What the quotes above are saying is to fight to spread the word of truth so to speak, but that does not justify killing or attacking civilians, but armies against armies, like what used to happen way back when both the Muslims and the Crusades would fight over certain locations trying to expand their religions… that kind of fight… :slight_smile:

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thanks ahmed, thats some good info:)

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I just wanted to point out that your an idiot :lol: I must have missed this post before.

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would you like to elaborate upon that a little bit?