Read this article by Quasimondo, and then rethink your site if you’re used to presenting the content in a pop-up window!
Thought this was so important I also featured it on my site…
Kirupa, as you’ve SP2 beta installed, could you test this by any chance…?
yeah…well…it’s come to a point where a few bad people use pop-ups that use cookies and such to pop-up a window everytime someone opens their browser. That kind of stuff ruins it for everyone else. 
I’m just hoping that MS’s popup blocker only blocks unwanted popups, and not ones that open with a click… I mean, we wouldn’t be able to do those cool chromeless windows as we have been taught on this wonderful site ;).
Has anybody else tested how it works? I know kirupa said that wanted popups still came up, but I like confirmation, ya know? 
Chromeless windows no longer work The box size is all random, and the window opens somehwere in the bottom-right of my screen. I guess there will be an updated version of the Chromeless window script.
My point is this, its not about what most users like. My point is that as the owner of a web property I REQUIRE the user to view the ads in conjuction with any content / pages I serve. M.S. should not have the right to limit what I require to anyone viewing pages I serve. Point blank.
Its not about what “most users like” because If you use that logic then there should be no commerials on TV. But there ARE commercials on TV simply because the revenue is necessary and the TV station has every right to require ads during programing. If you want to see “xyz sitcomm” then you know you will catch a commerical in the process at some point. So to be fair web publishers should have an option that would not allow pages to be viewed at all if the pop ad is blocked. That would be fair.
so brooklyniteOne’s basically saying that the web designer, owner, or whatever you want to call it should have the right to show their content only specifically how they determine b/c it’s thier property.
but what if somebody wants to disable all images in IE b/c they’re on 56k and it loads too slow. or they want to change font size in IE b/c they have bad eyesite. or they want to disable cookies. or they want to turn down the volume b/c the mp3 your site plays is too loud. the list goes on and on. they have all those freedoms which can drastically change the look and feel of a site, yet i don’t think anyone would argue against those. so why make the popup argument.
and on the tv note, you could always use a vcr or tivo and skip the commercials, but who would argue with that?
lastly, microsoft isn’t changing any of the content or files that you publish, they’re just giving people what they want.
Commercial on TV: it won’t open in a new tv with (sometimes) no remote to close it, you can just zap it or go get popcorn & a beer… or whatever you’re on…
Pop-ups/unders: most inexperienced users don’t know how to handle them, remember when you started surfing, discovered your first warez site, and all of a sudden, had 100’s of pops all over the place, hitting alt/f4 like mad to close them…? I do… 
I agree some websites need the income from these commercials, but then please use a/some banner(s), no need to pop anything… or at least, add a time-out self-close to it… but better don’t do it.
Sure you have the right to serve what you want, but for a first visit, if I get one pop as welcome, and another as good-bye, then that goodbye becomes a farewell, won’t come back! Respect the users, strategically locate your adds IN the content, and you’ll get many more hits/income, and no annoyed one-timers… hint hint…
It seems like you guys are looking at it from your view only. You are users that want it your way. I respect that. lol Its easy for you to say …“Hey just use in page ads.” But fact of the matter is that popups and unders can genreate about 5 times more revenue than banners typically. A greedy person is one that will compain about a pop from a site and spend 10 minutes on it sucking your bandwidth. I look at stats I know the deal. Also pop UNDERS which I serve are really not that intrusive. They pop UNDER. On top of that many publishers use them in addition to in page banners. For Microsoft to “debo” the market and practically render that ad format which is a top revenue earner for many web publishers useless is wrong in principle. Dont get me wrong I agree that going with strictly in page ads are the better. (we are moving towards selling our own targeted ads and moving away from all pops unless they are targeted or our own promos), but the fact is that this action by M.S. is bigger than just banning “annoying pops” its about something larger. Its about M.S. crunching the small guy publishers that may need the revenue.
Fin. (lol)
this is not microsoft saying, “we feel like getting rid of popups to squeeze the small guy”, it’s microsoft listening to the public that demands popups begone. and while unders are less intrusive, they’re still obnoxious.
and personally i love what microsoft’s doing b/c it’s a lot of those “small guy publishers” out there that have those **** popups that want you to install random programs and are just completely obnoxious about it. for those who know a fair amt. about computers it’s not too tough to avoid those, but for your average joe, they can be a real pain and cause nothing but problems (hence why there’s an increasing demand for popup blockers).
102 popup blocker softs on tucows
139 on zdnet…
MS’s is free, can be disabled. If everyone was ok to see pop’s, up or under, why would there be so much interest in stoping them…? The users on your site that want to see will still be able to and keep on sucking your bandwidth… hey, if you don’t want them to, do not serve any!? Do you feel it’s ok to provide a pop with a link “click here to close this…” which goes fullscreen when you do? That’s lying to novice users, and that’s what blockers are here for: get rid of this kinda stuff. If you can get the functionality for free by updating your OS, even the better. All about respect, same as in your t&c, saying you can opt out of stuff, instead of an opt-in choice…
Hope you’re glad now, got a click on your pop-UNDER from me
Nice site btw…
^ thanks… eyzberg …lol
Not all publlishers serve ads that “hijack” your computer. We serve none. Our ads are served by reputable companys as many do. And even reputable sites like the NYTimes serves popups…so there… 
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