If you were getting an hourly wage with no tips and provided poor service, I doubt you would have a job very long.
Sorry Jubba, but if the service is not there, then the tip is not either.
If I send you back and forth back and forth for bbq sauce and it is done promptly then a tip will be left.
You may want to look into some Angry Wait Staff Anonymous meetings my friend, you seem a little steamed.
TD
OK - so the reason tipping is done the way it is, is so waiters can dodge paying taxes on their income? Is that fair? I know I’d like to stop paying taxes on my income, but it would hardly be fair. And I wouldn’t contribute to the society I’m a part of.
I also think that a tip should be something that’s appriciated by the person who receives it, rather than something they expect. But that’s probably because I’ve gotten used to the way we do it over here. So what do you do if the service has been really good? Tip more than 15%?
I totaly agree with Kit and Billystar
I can walk in on a Saturday with an empty wallet and leave later that afternoon with $300 in cash. Can you do that at your job?
If anything I think the tip percentage is too high. Waiters aren’t flying planes, providing security or even cooking the meal. They are simply carrying food from one place to another with a smile and as such should be paid accordingly
add to that, running theyre *** off for each and every tables whim. filling up drinks, and that means when someone asks for iced tea (half sweet, half unsweet please) they get both pitchers to fill it up, cleaning up after familys of 5, which may or may not include soiled diapers, cracker crumbs, vomit, and trash from mommies purse, staying till after midnight to refill salt and pepper shakers, wiping down tables, sweeping floors, cleaning kitchen, rolling silver, refilling sugar/equal/splenda containers, vacumming…
what kind of logic is that??? waiters dont dodge paying taxes…they get paid the 2.15 an hour and that pays the taxes on theyre tips…
this discussion makes me ill man, some of you guys are really talented designers and artists, but when i hear your skanky opinions on how you dont tip or you dont think its deserved…i just get grossed out.
Daniel, maybe you should read the whole thread. Some of us who aren’t accustomed to tipping being a requirement live in Europe where the custom is that service is included on your bill and tipping is voluntary - and not expected. That’s why we only tip when we want to. So there’s really no need to get ill. The waiters I usually deal with are OK with not getting a tip. And they really appreciate it when someone tips them.
I’d still like to know why you do it your way. It seems a bit silly to me that you get a bill for $20 and then you absolutely have to add $3 as a tip. Why not just make the bill $23? The only reason I can see is that the $3 doesn’t show up anywhere, so the waiter can take them home and not pay income tax on them. Let’s say someone gets $50 in tips. How is income tax calculated on that? My guess is that it isn’t, and taxes are only paid on the $2.15.
I feel your pain Daniel, and you owe me a tip for this reply.
TD
speaking of which, heres a joke, what did the leper say to the prostitute?..
Keep the rest? 
keep the tip!
Face it, those of you that don’t tip or tip poorly are just a bunch of George Costanzas. Rationalize it all you want.
In my experience, people that are bad tippers are selfish people in general.
Also, Billystar, so what if Jubbas argument was a little flawed. I hardly think $40 an hour is enough money to run a restaurant. Seriously people, how the h3ll can you look your servers in the face? The reality is that you’re not the only one dining in these restaurants and when you have 40 people to take care of it’s difficult to be there the second your water is empty. Did you ever think for one second that your poor tipping is demoralizing the poor waiter/waitress that’s been on their feet for the last 8hours with no break?
For me personally, I tip based on the service I recieve. If my waitstaff visits my table twice…once to take my order and once to bring me my food, that waitstaff is going to get a small tip and a note on the receipt about why I tipped low. On the flip side if it was exceptional service, then they will get larger tips. I work hard for my money, so should they. Tipping is not a requirement, its generosity on my part. Tipping is a two way street, you treat me good and I’ll treat you good. Treat me bad and I’ll treat you bad.
On the flip side, if your a regular somewhere and have a reputation there for tipping low. Then the wait staff will be less inclined to help and serve you. I go to bars/clubs in Hollywood occassionaly and always tip 100%. Heineken is $5, I give the bartender a $10 and walk away. Now whenever I walk up to the bar I get served ahead of the people who have been waiting already.
Yes the service industry gets paid below minimum wage because there tips are supposed to make up the difference. Knowing that, don’t you think that people who work in the service industry should be putting there best foot forward at all times so they can get bigger tips. Exceed your customers expectations, but don’t expect anything out of them.
You said it, its flawed. 
i always tip my waiter, thats not the point. the point is that they shouldnt expect it whatever the quality of service they deliver, citing a $2 wage an hour as justification. not when they get the minimum wage whatever the tips!
What a rude thing to say.
O please your greatness, enlighten us all as to what classifies as a real job
[size=1]kirupa_delete: I think it would be better for this thread if you don’t mention what you think about him CG, so I removed your last line with the cough…cough :)[/size]
Today’s Tipping Example is Sponsored by Good Ol Canada
I pulled an all night working and at 8am I walked across the street to the diner for some breakfast. Total for food and coffee was 11.40. How much tip do you think I left?
If you said 4.00 You are right! Sometimes I don’t even go off the percentage, I just go off of if I’m throwing someone a couple bucks. Like when buying drinks at the bar you usually tip a dollar or two per drink.
You def. don’t get out your change carrier and drop the bartender 78 cents… I’m a generous person. It’s fun… you should try it.
Darius you big spender you. The man definitely can’t hold down Darius Monsef M22 that perfect somebody. :lol:
Great signature you have there. Everything looks great except for the weird dude looking into space. :lol:
[size=1]kirupa_edit: Thanks for the insight CG, but really, you will only end up angering him and possibly others. This forum would go down the tubes if everyone ended their posts with a few word adjectives to describe people they don’t agree with haha.[/size]
CG,
jubba
quote: “Even though my hourly pay is only $3.30 per hour I still make more money per year than most of my friends that have “real” jobs”
so my comment was not meant be rude, just sarcastic like yours!!! 
read the whole thread
Billystar, no worries. Some people have been shafted many times before working for tips, so this is a sensitive subject to them.
CanadaMan, Yeah who is that awesomely handsome guy looking out into space?
[size=1]kirupa_edit: Hey Ethan. I think you’re good looking too! I was thinking about giving you this forum and renaming it EthanM.com, what do you think?[/size]
Oh, wow K-Man. Thanks!
**** kirupa you’re fast. :lol:
[SIZE=1]kirupa_edit: EthanM stop impersonating me.[/SIZE]
[size=1]EthanM_edit: Don’t lie. You love me Kirupa[/size]
[SIZE=1]CanadianGuy_edit: Stop screwing around with my post guys! lol[/SIZE]
The people I tip are: Strippers, Bartenders, My Barber.
The reason: You get exceptional service if you do, and these guys are the equivalent to commission only. Meaning if no one comes in at all you dont get squat. I am just trying to see why we should pay extra for something that you are all ready getting paid for. DOes everyone here tip the delivery man? Your mailman? or anyone else that performs a valuable service?
Luckily my wife is a tipper because the way I see it. The waiter or waitress is not going to bring my food any faster than the cook cooks it. They are going to get what ever you ask because that is their job. So why the tip? They are not doing anything outside of what they are hired for.
Now ont he other hand if they are getting paid so low. I would find another gig. Or not complain about the people who dont tip. It is called a gratuity not an obligation. Dont get me wrong once again I am not frowning on anyones way of making a living and I am not a selfish person, but my belief is my belief.
The reason a waitor is tipped is because aside from being some family fast food like establishment you are tipping the server for their service.
I grew up in a Fine Dining Establishment where we wore suits and it was very much about the level of service a customer got. How comfortable I could make them, that their needs were taken care of, that I was charming / entertaining and made their dining experience enjoyable.
If you don’t want to tip a server then write your order down on a slip of paper and take it to the kitchen yourself. The point of going out is to get waited on. Compensate the server for the experience.
:: Copyright KIRUPA 2024 //--