IM BACK…
to bring you the most controversial game topic kirupa forums has yet seen…
debate away!
i personally am i ps2 kid because of the games… it has rpgs galore!!! i think ps2 has a lot more variety than gamecube, whith better companies making the games… for example SQUARESOFT :beam:
i think ps2 is really good. here is my reason.
the grahics are really good in the games that i have. + the dvd player, was a good idea. Also i heared that you can hook it up to the internet.
the only problem with Ps2 is that sometimes it does not want to work for me.
I don’t own and actually I haven’t played with any of these two…
I think that PC is the best choice =)
Why was my post erased?
oh kirupa had to do it because i didnt make the poll multiple choice, and he had to delete it, sry
ok, where do i start? (deep breath…)
The ps2 has been out over two years longer than gamecube - this could be the reason for more variety…
Whoa ‘squaresoft’ - once a great partner of nintendo, squaresoft sold out to sony, and gave them numerous ‘exclusive’ titles. This happenend with many other third party game publishers… now ‘thankfully’ the tides have changed - and most of those same third party publishers have gone back to nintendo…
PS2 PLAYS DVDS - what? this is the reason you bought one - lol - dont you allready have a dvd player - get real - PLAY GAMES NOT MOVIES
Quality control - PS2 has the best games - ha ha - out of the enormous amount of games released for ps2, how many have actually been worthy of your time? i can count these on my fingers (ico, rez, gta iii)… Graphical updates dont automatically mean great gameplay - i need new experiences. Gamecube on the other hand (mario sunshine, super monkey ball 1 & 2, rougue squadran ii, metroid prime, luigis mansion, smash bros) - and lets not forget the forthcoming new zelda.
Joypad - gamecube wins hands down…
unrelated fact : ps1 was jointly created by sony AND nintendo
Just for the record, im not just an nintendo freak, but an avid video game collector (and yes, i have playstation 2), but if i had to choose between these two consoles i would be the cube.
in a nutshell
PS2 : A system which is capable, but the potential is hardly ever realized. Only a handfull of games are ‘worthy’ of anybodys time. Nevermind, i can watch a dvd on it…
Gamecube : Great games (updates or not) and the greatest pad ever to touch my hands, oh and lets not forget the new zelda.
case closed…
Gamecube :
Mario fan, you just said what I did in my post that was earased, only you took a lot more words to do so 
I feel that Nintendo and games it makes and sends out too other developers to produce are the cream of the crop on any console. There are only a few games on any console that can compare with Mario Sunshine, Metroid and soon to be one of the classic games of all time Zelda: Wind Waker. Heck just look at their track record - almost any person who owns a next gen system right now probably owned either a NES or SNES, they paved the way. Zelda: Ocarina of Time is widley considered to be the best game ever created - that’s one heck of a distinction.
As for the PS2 - it’s a great system but doesnt have the games to support it. I mean it has hundereds of games more than either the Xbox or GameCube but it’s got one problem - 98% of them are terrible. For ever GTA or Final Fantasy , there are a ton of crappy ones.
I personally dont own a PS2 but I do have a GameCube and an Xbox. My friend has a PS2 so I have had many chances to play games on it. I would choose the GC over any other system at any time. The Xbox has AMAZING possibilities with the hard drive and built in modem - but it’s not getting great games Except for Halo and maybe Fable (if it ever comes out)
Long story short - Gamecube is better, in my opinion, because of the games. And let’s face it - it’s the games that make the system
exactly sure - its all about the games. Problem is the majority of people dont see it this way… Ok, the playstation is marketed very well, but this isnt the real reason of its success. Could it be that when a gamer goes into a games shop, the first thing they see is playstation, and that the majority of items in the store is playstation? could it be that it is really easy to obtain pirate games? or is it really just because it can play dvds (albeit badly - compared to a proper player).
The thing that really , really gets me annoyed is the fact that the mojority of ps2 gamers dont actually purchase the games they should be - ok, everybody has there own choice - but when games like ico and rez are ignored for games like bmx xxx and rayman… in reality the state of the games industry is sickening…
glad somebody knows the score …
i prefer PS2 more than anu other console
becuase of the games, dvd and becuas i am used to playstation
hey, did i say this was a xbox discussion- no because the xbox is a failure. xbox has as many sales right now as the ps2 sold in its first week…
anyways, you say that you need new variety mariofan ( why did i allow you to be in this discussions, ur name says it all), nintendo cant think of any new ideas for their games. for instance, look at the resident evils for gamecube. they are recreations of games that died years ago, just with updated graphics. and you call this “new variety?” give me a break…
secondly, the controller for the gamecube is a carbon copy of the ps2’s( with the exception of the “z” button.) the idea was copied.
third, i already had owned 3 dvd players before the ps2, but it is nice for people who dont yet have one. ($200 for a ps2 when a dvd player alone costs that much).
fourth, square and other companies are only publishing select titles for nintendo because nintendo has crap games for kiddies ( i.e. animal crossing, mickey mouse, luigis mansion). ps2 has the most games on the bestselling games of all time than any other system- mgs2, gta3, final fantasies, dark clouds, gran turismos, etc…) i admit nintendo has some good games like smash bros, but the others are for the kids. oh yeah, bmx xxx ( the failure) was also released on gamecube and xbox, both which were unedited, therefore promoting nudity in the market (ps2 censored it)
i also own a gamecube, but i think the ps2 is for more “hardcore” gamers that want pleasure and actually have to think and gain something from their games…
(oh yeah, one more thing, whats up with the stupid little cds for the gamecube, are they trying to be cute or something. thats just another setback)
ps2 also has a broadband adapter for socom and other games- which gamecube doesnt
ok where to start…
Xbox = Failure eh? How come it has sold more units than the Gamecube in North America? How come it has over 500 thousand users signe up for Xbox Live? How come Halo has sold like 2 million units? In case you cannot figure it out for yourself - the Xbox is not a failure. It has the best looking games of any console to date. The PS2 graphics are dated and look terrible in comparison on any game that is available to all 3 consoles.
The gamecube controller = It is by far nothing even close to the PS2 one. Having one you should know that. The fit and placement of the buttons, control sticks and analog pad are different and better on the Gamecube. The controller seems to mode into your hands. How about I tell you that Playstation copied the controller from the SNES only added an analog stick and an extra shoulder button?
Kiddie games - you have to be kidding. Just because Nintendo makes millions of dollars off of games such as pokemon and mario - they are considered kiddie? Have you even played the mario game? What is so kiddie about it? You have Spyro, Crash Bandicoot - they are kiddie games. The only thing is - they suck. Ok the original two spyros were great, but now… yuck.
Best selling games = Havent you heard, the new Zelda game is the most pre-ordered game in history, beating out your precious GTA, MGS and Final Fantasy. Also - are you trying to tell me that Super Smash Brothers isnt a kiddie game? The thing has mascots fighting eachother for gods sake. The only reason you dont find it kiddie is because you like it.
New Ideas??!! = who has come up with the most original ideas in the industry? You guessed it. Nintendo. What about Pikmin? you ever play it, or is it too kiddie for you? How about animal crossing? Let me guess - too kiddie again. The reason resident evil games are still being made is because they sell. Look at Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City - you do the exact same thing in both games - but those arent considered re-hashes?
DVD Disk - Nintendo went with the small ones to prevent Hacking of it’s console. Pretty good idea eh? I dont see anyone downloading copied Gamecube games do you?
Broad Band adapter - the Gamecube does have one, ever tried Phantasy Star ONline - oh yah, if you had a MODEM FOR YOUR GAMECUBE you would have because they make one.
You need some more facts and some better arguments before you start to trash another console. I think there is lot’s of room for 3 consoles out there and all 3 have their advantages. You just asked what one we liked better, so we told you
hahaa…this is too funny 
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ok then uncle :
firstly, i dont want to create enemies here in the kirupa forums, and i dont expect to be told that i should’nt be allowed to participate in a thread. You asked for peoples opinions and i gave you it - did i disrepect you,no. But you hit back on a petty thing like my handle.
This thread you created was always going to bring stong opinions from the start, and to be honest mine was pretty strong. I am no ‘final word’ on gaming, but i am a serious addict, and i strongly believe in my own views about gaming. Like i said, i own a ps2 and through selected games have had many hours of fun.
Ok, now im pissed and i think you really are talking nonence - heres why :
1.Variety - game count doesnt class as variety - for every gran turismo there is a thousand racers on ps2.
2.Nintendo cant think of new ideas (pikmin anyone)
3.“for instance - look at the resident evils for gamecube” you said - Did you think before you even wrote this. RESIDENT EVIL IS MADE BY CAPCOM - NOT NINTENDO.
4.Controller - where did the majority of items on the playstation pad come from?
-------d.pad = n.e.s controller
-------shoulder buttons = s.n.e.s controller
-------analouge stick = n64 controller
The gamecube controller is an evolution of nintendos previous controllers, not a carbon copy of the ps2. Have you even held one?
5.Ok, ill lets things slide with the dvd player (allthough the ps2 would be much cheaper if it didnt feature this, making it more accessable to everyone, no matter what there budget…)
6.Companies publishing titles for nintendo are not doing it because of the games nintendo create, but because they see it has a very capable machine that is easy to develop for (can this be said with ps2) - also they have witnessed the effect on the industry though exclusivity.
7.Hardcore - there is no console for ‘hardcore’ gamers. FULL STOP. Hardcore gamers are not confined to one console, for them, its the games that matter, not the hardware that runs it (and for the record, the ps2 is probably the least hardcore machine ever created - almost all its user base are mainstream gamers, fact)
8.The small cds that the cube games come on are for various reasons :
------1.Help with the small size of the console, making it easy to take to a friend house…
------2.help prevent software piracy (mentioned allready in a previous post)
- GAMECUBE HAS BOTH A BROADBAND AND MODEM ADAPTER - You better check your sources…
Ok, so we will probably never be friends, but if you only read this line - next time you create a thread that is obviously going to bring strong views - when they come dont take it personal.
oh, and you cant stop me from being in ‘your discussions’
mariofan
actually, nintendo does rule 
*Originally posted by SureShot *
Xbox = Failure eh? How come it has sold more units than the Gamecube in North America?
Just like Nintendo has sold more gamecube units in japan =)
did you know that in the first stages of the gamecube, nintendo’s “dolphin” was set to have a mickey mouse ingraved in the lid. tell me that isnt kiddy…
the analog stick actually came from the ps1, which came out a year before the ps2
i know what a hardcore gamer is. i have over 200 pc games (not pirated) a gamecube (2 games), ps2 (9 games), snes (21 games),
ps1 (27 games) etc… you get the idea, so dont tell me what a hardcore gamer is, gaming is a big part of my life
i am not taking anything personal, i am expressing my views and starting a debate, just as this tread was created for.
the original playstation pad had no analogue stick, you really better check your sources…
I told you straight what an hardcore gamer is (lots of games make you one do they?) hardcore gamers are not defined by numbers, consoles etc - they are players - players who play games. Like i said its all about the games…
And for not taking it personal - why say i shouldnt be able to participate in ‘your’ thread…
oh, and because a game looks ‘kiddie’ it should be overlooked? why? does a more adult game make it a great game - it seems you are kiddie (ok, getting personal, but still…)
Mariofan
better stopping this now before everyone starts fighting over consoles again. BTW Gamecube is much funner than Xbox or PS2 IMO.
Edwin: Smart move, how pathetic and childish arguing over gaming systems. So much for the phrase “it’s just a game”.
I’m re-opening this thread. Hopefully emotions have calmed a bit.
