White Slavery & Reparations

Ok… now that we have the Troll out of the way, we should really get back to the conversation. A Troll’s goal, willful or no is to disrupt communication.

In another thread Phil Dan and LIB are discussing the questions of why it matters that we actually know who got here first, and why we use a single image, Columbus as a symbol of discovery.

This is all regurgitation mind you. :slight_smile:

I have mentioned a couple of times a book that I’ve read, which in turn has led me to pick up many other source texts. A lot can be found on the internet, but you have to work for it. :slight_smile: The book itself though is not a tough read and is availiable at amazon.com

It covers the subject from a sociologist’s pov. I recomend it to everyone, but for you Phil, it’s a must read. I know you, and I know you’ll go out in search of every single one of his reference materials.

“Lies…”, details the idea of ‘Heroification’ (sp?); basicaly the idea that we need hero images in our lives due to how we have developed over the years. This is reflected in a many places in history, and pretty easy to see once the source data is presented.

The hilarious thing really is, when we find data that doesn’t support the squeekie clean image of someone like Columbus. He was a drunkard, and ran his ship with an iron fist. I think some of the crew thought he was nuts or something like that. Mutany certainly was presented in my history classes, but it was played down.

Another interesting tid bit that the book related which I find infinitely more fascinating than who came here first, is the account of the American Native showing up in Britain Years earlier in a “dug-out”. Now THAT is an impressive feat.

So why is it important to know? I agree with some of the statements in the other thread. It’s important because history is the ONLY teacher we have. The only real teacher. It is full of mistakes, catastraphy, evil. History teaches us the real truths of the Universe.

NUH UH!!!

LOL, just messin with you david. Good speech :slight_smile:

I shall go die in my room now…

Being a Brit, I haven’t heard of this whole reparations thing, and the company firewall won’t let me view the original link, so forgive me as I’m kinda flying blind here.

Over here, we’ve got a lot of problems around this issue. To start with, the Government of today would rather like us to completely forget the British Empire of 100 or so years ago. This was a time when the UK ruled a large majority of the world, but we are not taught about it it schools, or encouraged to feel good about it. Instead we’re told by the PC brigade that we were bad people, enslaving and forcing our rule and laws upon these countries. It’s like we’re trying to erase this period from history.

We’ve also had a few statements that the police force are inherrantly rascist, because of the number of non-whites that get randomly stopped and searched. Well guess what? Those forces are operating in non-white areas, so there is going to be a greater ratio there. You get criminals of all races, we can all be loopy.

Plus there’s the whole immigrant issue. If you read the papers you could be forgiven for thinking that the vast majority of this country hates all forms of immigration. We don’t. I think what people tend to get irritated about are the ones that trek across several countries just to get to Britain because we’re a soft touch, then sneak in illegally and disappear…

I dunno, it’s complicated I guess.

I’m so mad, I’m going to toss my neighbor’s cat through the window. Maddox

sorry I took the link again and I started reading and i thought this was the funniest thing I have ever read…

I have already stated my ideas about slavery and such…

That is a funny quote Jubba… brutal… but funny.

But what is funnier was in my last post I posted that I shall go die in my room now… when I really meant I shall go <B>lie</B> in my room now…lol.

they decided to install a new type of cross-walk light next to the City Hall/Civic Center area. These new lights are bigger, brighter, and have a 15 second countdown to the orange hand.

My point to this pointless story is that I wonder how long it will take someone to sue the City for adding undue stress to their street crossings… I mean here you are, 1/4 of the way across a large busy street, when you look up and the sign says you have 10 seconds left to reach the other side… OMG the stress! :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t know why I had to tell that story, but I guess it kinda is the same as reparations… too litigeous…

Rev:elderly:

Phil:

Cities are fine… it’s the politicians in the cities which suck…=)

Rev:elderly:

sorry Phil:

This is one area we will have to agree to disagree…

I was raised in the country, and now live in the City…

I gotta love the City… :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

I just spent 2 hrs watching a local band, that just rocked… they won’t make it big (more than likely), but they rocked…

I love SF… =) =) =)

to each his own… :stuck_out_tongue:

Rev:elderly:

I hate the city, I was born and raised in it.

The city isn’t for everyone though. I much prefer the peace and tranquility of the wilderness. I would love to live in a cabin in the middle of the woods or something.

I camp in the woods…

I <i><b>live</i></b> in the City…

:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

I love the City…

Rev:elderly:

I camp in the woods as well… and <B><I>hate</I></B> living in the city.

LOL.

have you ever been to SF?

Rev:elderly:

Nope.

If you love music, or food, you gotta come out to SF…

It’s like New Orleans, but they tell you to go home (NOLA is 24 hrs)…

=) =) =)

Rev

Music = good

I am a picky eater…lol.

In this town, you can’t be too picky…

We have everything here… name one, we have it… probably a couple :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

you gots a place to stay (it’s expensive as crap here)…

Rev:elderly:

I bet it is expensive there. One thing I wouldn’t like…lol.

Yeah, but once you’re here, you’re hook’d

Rev:elderly: