blindlizard - God distinguishes in the creation account on those days that each were made separately. And He specified where they were made from. Not exact specifics I know…but it said from the earth not from the animals He already created.
I see what you are saying, just re-read Genesis 1
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
This could support evolution however to some degree. “Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind.” Maybe they didn’t all evelove from the same cell/atom/sludge but it sounds like each type came from their own specfic cell/atom/sludge type.
*Originally posted by prstudio * “Have you ever seen God, have you ever seen Him? I’ve seen the effects of the wind, but I’ve never seen the wind…there’s a mystery to it.”
*Originally posted by snorkyfrog2 *
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that’s how the bible happened folks. some PEOPLE told some stories to each other and handed them down from generation to generation and finally they got translated from ancient languages into old english and written into a big ol book. **
Actually, people who study ancient writings find that compared to other cultures, the Jewish writings were excellently preserved. And the reason is, they didnt keep retelling them. This culture had writing as early as egypt did, and the single most important thing to them was to preserve what they called ‘the Law’ by handing it down * unchanged*.
*Originally posted by snorkyfrog2 *
**I mean no offense but I truly am astounded that so many people still believe these myths. **
Its human nature. Whether it be from divine providence or survival of the fittest, its the nature of a human being to believe things they are told.
If God made people who didn’t believe, would anyone go to heaven?
If someone came running into the cave screaming “SABRE TOOTH TIGER!!!” and someone didn’t believe, would that person be able to further bear offspring to perpetuate the species? (natural selection)
*Originally posted by snorkyfrog2 *
**I mean no offense but I truly am astounded that so many people still believe these myths. in 1000 years, all of the modern religions will have gone the way of the Roman, Greek and Mayan religions—readily acknowledged as myths and devices to control the population. I just hope at that time we have replaced them with common sense instead of just another religion du jour. **
You know what gets me? That you get so upset that people believe it.
*Originally posted by senocular * If God made people who didn’t believe, would anyone go to heaven?
That is in the Bible, I am searching for the verse now. I believe off the top of my head that it says something along the line that people who weren’t tought about God get a chance to accept Him when they die. It is the people that have learned about Him in life but chose to not accept Him that have the problem.
this is not really about creation and evolution anymore. Both are ways that some believers in God think the world came to be. The question being discussed is whether God exists.
God does not exist simply because the Bible says He exists.
That is the wrong order entirely. If we agree that there is a god, we can discuss whether the Bible is written by men or by Him.
snorky, lets assume that all religions so far have been completely and totally made up. Does this prove there is no god? Or does it just prove that ‘following a religion’ is a bad reason to believe in Him?
*Originally posted by snorkyfrog2 *
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can I prove these are all scams? probably not without a lot of effort. but I can still reject them as nonsense because extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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I hold that the existence of God is not an extraordinary claim.
Most religions and many people believe in god. it seems quite ordinary to me.
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