So you guys are saying one of the best things I should do on a Mac is install Windows.
I’ve been using it exclusively for the past few days and I like how everything is integrated. I like Adium and Mail in particular. I never use calendars or address books either way, maybe when I get a Blackberry or iPhone. Nothing feels snappy on a Mac though. The visual responsiveness to GUI controls seems to lag, compared to Windows XP (not Vista).
I got Quicksilver - it’s alright. I use Launchy on Windows so I got used to that quick…
And Jeff, I got Textmate as well. What’s so special about it? It seems nothing more than a regular text editor, without my beloved VI controls!
(BTW, how do I install VI Input Manager for Leopard? Is it even supported? I can’t find the answer to that anywhere.)
You seem to be fairly convinced you dont want to switch so I won’t bother typing an essay. This will do for now;
I haven’t had an application crash or OS shut down in over a year.
You can go on how much you like with bla bla programs dont crash if you take care of your computer on a pc yada yada. It doesn’t matter. For me, that simple point makes it worth the while. Macs simply don’t crash.
[quote=sekasi;2330197]For me, that simple point makes it worth the while. Macs simply don’t crash.[/quote]Yes they do, I even got nokrev to admit it after i watched a co-worker of mine’s crash and he even laughed about it (PC’s don’t crash either, just the poorly designed software).
[QUOTE=sekasi;2330197]You seem to be fairly convinced you dont want to switch so I won’t bother typing an essay. This will do for now;
I haven’t had an application crash or OS shut down in over a year.
You can go on how much you like with bla bla programs dont crash if you take care of your computer on a pc yada yada. It doesn’t matter. For me, that simple point makes it worth the while. Macs simply don’t crash.
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Actually if you don’t mind, could you elaborate on why Mac is good? I actually want to switch. The stability of Windows Vista is nowhere near my expectations and I expect no better from future releases of Windows. I’d switch to Linux, but I’m quite conscious of usable UI and (relatively) mainstream software support, thus Mac. I just need some motivators to switch me over completely, otherwise I’d just be running it as a virtual machine in VMware on Windows Vista like I’m doing now.
MTsoul, you could just do what loyx said with your current system. That way you can use it for a very long time and if you change your mind you haven’t lost any money.
[whisper]plus I don’t know why people say vista is unstable and what not, I’ve yet to have it crash for the whole 8 months i’ve had it. Meh just saying its way better than xp imo.[/whisper]
The way I see it, both PC and Mac has a lot of strong sides the other one lacks… Personally I wouldn’t switch if I was on PC and really happy with it. If I didn’t have any problems et cetera. I don’t know how to elaborate why Mac is Good, since I don’t know anyone that claims the opposite. Both platforms are excellent. It’s more of a personal preference than anything else really…
I run a dual 3.2Ghz 8-core Macpro atm with both Mac OSX 10.5.2 and Windows Vista. The reason I have Vista on it is because I have some software licenses for PC programs that do not translate over to OSX and I need them.
I like mac, I like the interface, the system stability. I love some of the built in applications and functions like expose, the ssh ready to go Terminal, the “cron job” type scheduling, the way spotlight functions. I like how program installations are ridiculously drag and drop easy (for the most part) and how they are ridiculously easy to uninstall properly (without ever having to type “regedit” again).
It’s a personal preference. I like Vista too. I made the switch from PC to Mac a few years ago when XP was the newest kid on the block, and I loved XP. I had very little problem with it.
I don’t know what to tell you more than that. I like mac better. And it just doesn’t crash. I know Templarian claims otherwise but Macs just simply are more stable. Be it that the software is better designed or whatnot, either way. They rarely go down on you.
[quote=Templarian;2330242]MTsoul, you could just do what loyx said with your current system. That way you can use it for a very long time and if you change your mind you haven’t lost any money.
[whisper]plus I don’t know why people say vista is unstable and what not, I’ve yet to have it crash for the whole 8 months i’ve had it. Meh just saying its way better than xp imo.[/whisper][/quote]
I don’t want to spend a whole week trying to install Mac OS X, only to realize it will do nothing but botch up my computer because of hardware incompatibilities and make me spend another week restoring it, UNLESS I know I really want to use OS X.
[whisper]Vista has given me so many blue screens lately. One time, during start up, I DIDN’T EVEN TOUCH THE MOUSE, blue screen. It is really unstable with my hardware/vmware configuration. [/whisper]
This all seems pretty meaningless so far. I guess I’ll play around with it to see how I like it.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned (too much to read)
but, set up hot corners for Exposé
(system prefs > Exposé & Spaces)
I use bottom right corner to reveal my desktop, bottom left to reveal all open windows, and top right to reveal all in-use-application-windows.
Plus, dragging and dropping files between two folders is awesome, a typical usage of this method, would be to click and drag a folder, activate a hot spot to reveal all open windows, and then hold the folder you are clicking and dragging over one of the windows in Exposé mode for a few seconds, it blinks, and zooms into the window and, bingo bango, release!
*edit: man, i am sooooo late to the party with this
The main reason I bought a Mac for was because of the ability to run more than 1 OS on it so having the option of running all popular OSes that alone was worth the price of my 17" MBP now I can author CD/DVD and test cross platform on one computer :fab:
Like I said install bootcamp and if you see you dont like OSX as much as you do XP/Vista your favorite OS is just a restart away :love: so yes Macs are better just because of this awesome feature.
True but emulating an OS is not the same as running it natively
I remember installing OSx on my PC back in the old days of OSX86 back then you could not use any apps most would crash so like others have said if your happy with your current setpup why change it?
If it aint broke dont fix it, all I can say is even though I have my MBP I still find the need to ocassionaly boot into windows because of something OSX cant do properly.
[QUOTE=MTsoul;2330175]And Jeff, I got Textmate as well. What’s so special about it? It seems nothing more than a regular text editor, without my beloved VI controls![/QUOTE]
I’ll admit: the power is difficult to understand without using it for a while — it took me about a month to fall in love, and it seems to happen that way with most people.
Once you start exploring random packages (including all snippets, commands, templates, etc.), plugins, and features (like the ability search for commands based on name or keyboard shortcut), you will find that really, it is incredibly extensible and that there are a jagillion things you’ll never learn.
It’s also really fast, unlike every IDE ever made, and it can be opened from the command-line for editing anything, quickly.
[whisper]Oh, and yes — its keybindings are closer to Emacs than Vim. Thankfully.[/whisper]
[ot][quote=MTsoul;2330286][whisper]Vista has given me so many blue screens lately. One time, during start up, I DIDN’T EVEN TOUCH THE MOUSE, blue screen. It is really unstable with my hardware/vmware configuration. [/whisper]
This all seems pretty meaningless so far. I guess I’ll play around with it to see how I like it.[/quote]Your computer sucks if its older than 2 years you should be installing vista on it. I’m gonna say you either installed it on a computer that wasn’t 100% vista compatible and/or you installed something that messed with windows files in some way. Your vista restore disc should fix any bluescreens. I’ve yet to get one after 8 months and today was the first time in a month i restarted my computer.[/ot]
[ot]Temp, Vista isn’t perfect. Admit it :lol: I bought my computer in January of this year. Acer M6520. Quad core, 3GB of memory, Geforce 7900GT. I. Get. Blue screens. Simple as that. [/ot]
[ot]^What are the errors on the blue screens. I’m gonna take a guess and say your drivers are out of date that shipped with your computer. If you can find out what the blue screen is its not hard to fix it. If you update to the latest drivers on your graphics card that helps a lot. Simply said are you running: 169.25? Also making sure all software are up to date.[/ot]
Like Jeff said give osx a good month before you get used to it, the way everything is integrated is so wonderful. I use hot corners. Also in Camino I have my bookmarks bar set up with a number in front of each bookmark all I have to do is press cmd+4 to get to kirupa forums. It is like 10x better then spee dial on Opera.
Also, I uploaded that picture via ftp so fast, I took a cropped screen shot, then dragged the picture to a custom made transmit icon on my desktop, that uploads it to my server, then it opens the link in my web browser for copying and pasting. Once you get a good little workflow figured out on a mac, it makes the computer seem so much faster then it actually is.
[QUOTE=MTsoul;2330286]I don’t want to spend a whole week trying to install Mac OS X, only to realize it will do nothing but botch up my computer because of hardware incompatibilities and make me spend another week restoring it, UNLESS I know I really want to use OS X.
[whisper]Vista has given me so many blue screens lately. One time, during start up, I DIDN’T EVEN TOUCH THE MOUSE, blue screen. It is really unstable with my hardware/vmware configuration. [/whisper]
This all seems pretty meaningless so far. I guess I’ll play around with it to see how I like it.[/QUOTE]
I’ve had a mac for 3 years now, the same one, still just as fast as the day I got it (I added some ram), I only remember it having to restart about twice and it was generally the result of my own stupidity, no viruses and everything works well. I have had some problems with iTunes but I don’t blame my OS for that.
Anyway I have found it’s much smoother then Windows I find the interface much more user friendly.
There’s also all the built in perks- which others have mentioned, Expose, iLife, Time Machine.
[QUOTE=ajcates;2330403]Like Jeff said give osx a good month before you get used to it, the way everything is integrated is so wonderful. I use hot corners. Also in Camino I have my bookmarks bar set up with a number in front of each bookmark all I have to do is press cmd+4 to get to kirupa forums. It is like 10x better then spee dial on Opera.
